Laserdiscs and HDTV

Discussion in 'Playback Devices' started by Al_Swanson, Feb 24, 2004.

  1. Al_Swanson

    Al_Swanson Agent

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    Here's my problem...I recently bought a used Sony MDP-455 and hooked it up to my 65907. I am running it on s-vid through my 3801.
    That's actually not the problem...the problem is the video seems to suck! Now, I have been watching DVD's and HDTV for a couple years now, but I have also watched my other tv's - none of which are HD.
    Is the quality of s-vid THAT much worse? With laserdiscs (and I used to have one a few years back), I remember them being pretty decent. This is far from it.
    I wrote the seller and he insists (and has a good record from what I can tell) that it was in great shape and should get a terrific picture.
    Am I simply expecting too much? Or does it sound like I got ripped on the player?
     
  2. Jay Blair

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    I don't know much about this laserdisc model. Sony players don't have very good reputations. I believe it probably has a very weak comb filter, worse the the one in your TV. Try hooking it up using the composite output. I would be suprised if it didn't look much better.

    So yes, you probably are expecting too much. As to whether you got ripped, only if you paid too much for it. It likely is functioning up to specs.
     
  3. Tony Kwong

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    Are you using any zoom modes or anything like that on your TV? If so you might need a better scaler. I use dScaler on a HTPC and it works great with LD.
     
  4. Andre Bijelic

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    Another thing, don't use the s-video output. Use the composite output. Laserdisc is inherently a composite format, and the comb filter in your set is more than likely superior to the one in the player.
     
  5. Philip Hamm

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    You'll get a significantly better picture from composite than S-Video.
     
  6. Rachael B

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    I've had a Sony LD player and hated it. The U.S. models are patentedly inferior across the board. They all have a grungy, noisey picture. A Pioneer budjet model like the CLD-S104 will outperform (visually) every model Sony sold in the U.S. I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Sony LD players define mediocrity.

    I concur with the group that the composite video should be used. The S-video output should be super glued shut for all time.[​IMG] I'd also suggest that Sony LD players are best suited for 20-27 inch analog tube sets. When I had one in the early 90's I used it with a 20 inch set and I wasn't even impressed with it in that venue.

    Sony players are smart looking but beauty is only skin deep.
     
  7. Allan Jayne

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    Caution, don't super glue the S-video jack quite yet. There are a small number of high end LD players including Pioneer['s CLD-99 that always comb filter the video and the S-video output is the primary output and the composite is recomposited from the S-video. I have not seen one but presumably the picture is better due to time base correction.

    Also, the comb filter in the LD player is probably at least better than the filter in a sub USD $200. stand alone composite to S-video converter that some folks use.

    When you compare the results from using composite vs. S-video from the LD player, you won't go wrong.

    Video hints:
    http://members.aol.com/ajaynejr/video.htm
     
  8. Rob.melone

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    Be more specific. Is it the clarity, color, contrast etc.?
    You can also help us help you by telling us the LD movies you are watching. Some of us may be familiar with the quality of the movie in LD format.

    In the meantime, here are a few things to try: First, connect your LD player directly to your tv (i.e. bypass the 3801) composite then s-video. Second, check your tv settings for color, contrast, etc. and try switching between LB & 16 x 9.

    Good luck!
     
  9. Allan Jayne

    Allan Jayne Cinematographer

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    Video Essentials was put out on LD.

    Unfortunately some LD players including som Pioneers have their video output out of spec. This would cause the calibration of the TV for the LD player to differ from the calibration needed for your DVD player.
     
  10. Al_Swanson

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    Clarity was the main issue. I did switch last night to composite and the comb filter in the Mitsu took over and it is much better. Bottom line is that this Sony player sucks.
    I was watching the first (original) Star Wars. Sad as it may sound, with the DVD's being announced for Sept, I figured this was the last chance to own the originals, so I popped for them and the player.
    Ah, guess I shoulda spent the extra and bought a Pioneer.
     

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