James Bond Screen Comparison Collection

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  1. captainjoe

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    Top -1998 R1 SE
    Bottom -2006 R1 UE

    Dr. No

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    From Russia with Love

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    Goldfinger

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    Thunderball

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    You Only Live Twice

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    On Her Majesty's Secret Service

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    Diamonds are Forever

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    Live and Let Die

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    The Man with the Golden Gun

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    The Spy Who Loved Me

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    Moonraker

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    For Your Eyes Only

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    Octopussy

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    A View to a Kill

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    The Living Daylights

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    Licence to Kill

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    More coming soon...
     
  2. captainjoe

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    I should have one or two more added by today or tomorrow.
     
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    Wow. Nice job. The compression artifacts in the old transfers look terrible!
     
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    The compression is terrible on all the old ones, even DAD.
     
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    Boy, the colors on Tball and OHMSS seem a little drab and not "technicolor-ish". IS it just limited to these scenes or throughout the whole films?
     
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    The movies look better when you're actually watching them. The tone-down colours are way better. The old ones look too over-saturated. No one has a face that orange.[​IMG]
     
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    That's a bit of a mish mash. Some look better some look worse. The contrast and color on OHMSS looks much better on the old version. Dr No is a big improvement (in that scene anyway).
     
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    Hah, I actually just saw it again on my monitor at home and noticed the "orange face". Having seen these in 35mm/IB tech, to me the top pics look more like they're supposed to on film, the pics below of the new release looks way too dull. But, I haven't seen them on DVD yet ....
     
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    I am finding that screen shots are not a good way to judge any DVD image. I have done a comparison on my plasma screen and I do find that the old SE Bonds, the early Connery films and OHMSS do look noticeably dirty, and over saturated. As to whether the new UE look dull, they don't! Compare the SE and UE DVD on my set-up and OHMSS actually looks very rich and colorful. I noticed the colors of the neckties on Draco's henchmen, they just pop! I never noticed them before. A lot of stuff just pops out at you on the new UE's that I never noticed before. But the colors are not over saturated. The colors look "right".

    Captainjoe made a great effort to present the screen grabs here. I would use them to compare image quality, but not colors.
     
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    It's worth noting that all the SE screen caps in this comparison are jpegs that have been compressed to a file size that is 10 times smaller than the UE pngs. The file size of the first screen cap is 46kb for the SE and 468kb for the UE. Surely that could not be considered a fair comparison?
     
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    Yeah sorry I just realized that because I did the SE months ago in preparation for the UEs. Then when I did the UEs I saved as bitmaps because before I realized that BMPs provide better quality. I forgot I saved the older ones as JPGs. I'll note it on my comparison, thanks for the telling me that.[​IMG]
     
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    So basically this thread is good for comparing the framing and that's about it?
     
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    I could go and recapture the SE as BMP. I guess I'll start.[​IMG] It shouldn't take me too long and I've got nothing else to do this Christmas. I'm sorry guys about that screw up.
     
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    All the problems people have been having with these new transfers are peanuts compared to the unmitigated disasters the old ones were. I still have nightmares about all the dirt and grime caked over OHMSS, and all that misquito noise in Goldfinger.
     
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    The good definately out weighs the bad with the new UEs.
     
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    With all the flap over the "horrendous" cropping of GoldenEye, how come no one is creating an uproar over the additional image on the top and sides of Thunderball UE? Surely that wasn't the intention if that wasn't the framing on the SE. [​IMG]
     
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    To my eye, the skin tone of Bond in YOLT looks much more realistic in the UE. Note the tan neck, untanned chest, and tanned forearms. Very typical for a white male. In Thunderball, the UE looks much sharper. The SE looks fuzzy in comparison. Also note the building to the right of Largo. The color of the stone looks more realistic to me based on what I see in the real world. I can see where you're coming from in regards to a blue feel in that shot, but in comparison the SE looks like it has a yellow filter on top of it.
     
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    I agree with that. I've never seen anyone who has that orange of a skin tone. The tan line does look more realistic.
    I showed a friend of mine the SE of Thunderball and he said that the above scene looks like crap compared to the new one. Once you see what it looks like on your television then you'll see it is much more suitable. Perhaps it is a little too blue but it is better than the SE, IMO.
     

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