It's A Mad Mad.....DVD extras?

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  1. Derek U

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    Hi,
    First off, my name is Derek and I am new to the list. I am a big fan of the film IAMMMMW and am anxiously awaiting the DVD release. I know that the version on the DVD is the theatrical version, but my question is does anyone know if all of the restored footage from the VHS/LD will be on the DVD? I've never seen the theatrical version. Does the extra footage in the movie make a big difference? Any help would be appreciated.
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  2. Tino

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    Welcome to the forum. I too am anxiously awaiting this DVD. The specs list deleted scenes, but what those scenes are is not clear. Try performing a search on MAD WORLD, and a few threads should pop up on the subject You'll see that a LOT of interest has been raised about this DVD and it's content.
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  3. Mike_S

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    According to the Amazon.com website, it's listed as having a 1 hour documentary which was also on the box set of the LD. I'm fairly certain that no restored or extra footage will be on this DVD. Now I have the LD with all the extra footage that they re-inserted back into the film and they were of poor quality and I really didn't think they enhanced the movie (for me). I'll pick up the DVD for the anamorphic image and 5.1 sound. The documentary that IS on the DVD is quite good.
     
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    You'll certainly get different opinions here, and vehemently so, but while there are equally vocal proponents on both sides, I think there are more fans of this film in this forum who will not be buying the upcoming dvd because of the cuts from the already released ld. I for one find they enhance the film, and will not be buying the butchered* version on the upcoming dvd.
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    The 20 min cut from the film is the deleted scenes, I think.
    I think MGM is doing the right thing by putting the general release version out until the movie is reconstructed.
    Every time a deleted scene popped up on the "restored" version, the color was faded, the picture was warped, and there were scratches EVERYWHERE.
    It's not MGM's fault that the movie is butchered, it's United Artists' fault from 1963. They cut it after the roadshow.
    I still think MGM should have postponed the DVD until it was properly restored...but this DVD might be a fundraiser for the restoration. It IS a 65mm film, you know.
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    Every time a deleted scene popped up on the "restored" version, the color was faded, the picture was warped, and there were scratches EVERYWHERE.
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    Boy, do I disagree with you here! Considering what they had to work with (a faded release print), I thought MGM/UA did a hell of a job on the laserdisc--both in terms of color and scratch removal. And the print wasn't "warped", merely designed for a curved screen.
     
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    I have said this many times before.
    MGM should have waited to release this
    film to DVD until they had the chance to
    do it RIGHT.
    I'll be celebrating the DVD release by watching
    the laserdisc Special Edition.
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    Check out the review from DVDFILE.com. It is now up, and they are not too happy about the extras.
    I WILL NOT be buying this DVD, untill it's released properly!
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    The review at http://www.dvdfile.com
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    [Edited last by Tino on September 04, 2001 at 06:08 AM]
     
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    Maybe I need to clarify what I wrote in my review for DVDFILE. The actually length of the "deleted scenes" (or "extended scenes" as the packaging indicates) is an hour long. But MUCH of the hour is repetitive. So the stuff that makes you think, "hey, waitasecond, I haven't seen that before" is much less than an hour. If the RIGHT deleted scenes from this section were APPROPRIATELY and INTELLIGENTLY inserted into the film to make a longer cut, I cannot say that it would make the film much more than 15 or 20 minutes longer, if that. But I will stress that I am not an expert on this film, and have not seen the laserdisc release, though I certainly was aware of it.
     
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    I'll be celebrating this release as Ron is, by watching the laserdisc version. No sale, MGM.
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    My understanding is that the additional scenes that are on the LD version are NOT scenes cut between the roadshow and the theatrical version. That is, they are scenes that were never meant to be part of the released movie in the first place, and it was gross misrepresentation to edit them back in and call it restored. I find it hard to get riled up about such material. As far as I know, all the material that was cut from the roadshow version remains lost, but I'd be happy to hear otherwise.
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    The dvdfile review indicates that the DVD has good and bad elements. At least it has the Overture, Intermission and Epilogue music which is a big plus as far as I'm concerned as well as many deleted scenes. However, I'm sorry to learn that the picture quality isn't up to much. When I first saw the film on the Cinerama screen I thought the picture quality was fantastic. In fact, one of the sharpest images I've ever seen. Still, as I don't have the laser disc, I will definitely be picking up the DVD pending a complete restoration.
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  14. Ronald Epstein

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    Mark,
    Who told you those deleted scenes were
    NOT in the ROADSHOW version?
    It is my understanding that there is no
    way to know at this point since none of
    the original elements showing what the
    Roadshow version even exist.
    Let's put it this way....
    The film was originally cut down after
    the ROADSHOW release. It stands to reason
    that MOST LIKELY the deleted footage was from
    the original ROADSHOW release.
    Putting that extra footage in supplemental
    form, instead of inserting it back in the
    movie itself, does far more harm to the viewer.
    You quickly lose interest in watching these
    scenes out of proper sequence.
    Trust me -- the laserdisc Special Edition,
    true Roadshow version or not -- was FAR better
    than what MGM has put together here.
    This DVD should NOT have been released at
    this time till it was done right. Chances are
    you will be repurchasing this DVD in the next
    few years when MGM gets around to doing it correctly.
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  15. Derek U

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    Well well well...
    It seems that I've ignited quite the controversy. Thank you all for your help. I know that it's not the most economic approach, but given my OCD when it comes to DVD, I'll probably buy this one, and if and when a better one shows up, I'll go to ebay.
    Thanks,
    Derek
     
  16. Mark Zimmer

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    Well, if the search function were working I could probably tell you, Ron. Seems to me though that that was information from Robert Harris; my apologies if I'm misattributing. I'll see if I can come up with some independent verification on this.
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    Mark,
    The thread you are searching for is located here , and Mr. Harris' assertion is pretty much as you represented it. For die-hard fans of the film such as Ron and Steve, it is very frustrating what has happened to it. The laserdisc release was the closest to the roadshow release anyone has seen on video and in some ways, the new MGM release feels like a step back. It would have been nice if they had offered a branching option, but it would be even better if they commited resources to re-creating the roadshow version as completely as possible on film.
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  18. Sam R. Aucoin

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    I finally received my "special restored edition" LD boxset of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World".
    I tried to perform a search for the post where Mr. Harris comments on how the "special restored edition" was, basically, a travesty, and was not done correctly.
    (And this is not an attack on Mr. Harris - I am sure I am missing something here): At the beginning of the LD, a narrator specifically comments that shortly after the movie was released, it was cut before being shown nationwide. Then, the narrator says that SOME of the 70mm film elements of the cut footage (the remainder of the cut footage is apparently nowhere to be found) were found in a warehouse that was scheduled for demolition. Finally, the narrator specifically states that MGM, IN COOPERATION AND WITH STANLEY KRAMER, (producer and director - hard to find someone with more authority on a film than that) inserted 20 minutes of the lost footage to present us (that is, those who purchased the "restored" LD boxset) with the most complete version of the movie available on home video to date.
    Given the above, how can anyone say that the inserted, previously cut scenes detract from the movie and basically "ruin" the movie? I find that an odd take, considering the producer/director himself had a hand in inserting the cut footage.
     
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    Screw Laserdisk =)
    I'll be buying this DVD for two reasons:
    1. It will be the first time I've seen this movie since the mid 70s where I watched it on TV and fell in love with it on TV. I refused to get into laserdisk and this will be the best alternative to seeing this movie ever, and it will be 100x better than the TV version.
    2. If it encourages MGM to do it right by getting a few sales for it, great. If it convinces MGM they can get away with putting subpar versions out, I'm guilty as charged, my only defense is #1 above.
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