Is the b&w era of TV on DVD slowly coming to an end?

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  1. Dave B Ferris

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    They've done this for the last three or four years, but only for the two weeks. I used to belong to a "chat group" where the members were speculating that GSN was just doing a "burn off" to meet some sort of contractual obligation.
     
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    Our Miss Brooks has been on my want list for years . To my knowledge it has never been issued in any format. I hope CBS releases it . And I agree about Sgt Bilko .
     
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    I don't know what the correct number of S1 episodes is, but the CBS site shows:

    S1 - 32
    S2 - 32
    S3 - 34
    S4 - 32
    Total - 130

    This is great news as I'll finally get to see a series that I've heard about but never seen. Hopefully the entire run gets transferred.
     
  4. Vic Pardo

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    Just for the record, this Sunday, Jan. 5, 2014, marks the centennial of George Reeves' birth. In preparation, I dug out my box sets of "Adventures of Superman" and started watching episodes. So far, six from Season One and six from Season Two, but I hope to see a lot more by the end of Sunday. Many of these are either first-time viewings or the first time since childhood. I never did see a lot from Season One growing up and those episodes are quite a revelation, given how violent they are and how aggressive Superman is in them. The guest stars are interesting, too. Hugh Beaumont (Ward Cleaver) is in one, playing a model citizen and father of a young son and just before he's to receive a civics award he gets outed as an ex-con. Billy Gray (Bud on "Father Knows Best") is an amateur photographer in another and gets a shot of Clark changing into Superman.
     
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    The Adventures of Superman is a looooong time favorite! I'd seen the information about the Reeves' birth centennial on another forum and have already planned to watch as many episodes as I can today and tomorrow!

    As a child I saw all of them enough to practically memorize the episodes! The program aired at 6am Saturday on a local station so I'd get up around 5:30-5:45, get a bowl of cereal, and sit in front of the TV with the sound down low watching the test pattern while waiting for sign-on and Superman. I'd often hide behind the big chair when Supes got into Kryptonite trouble because I couldn't stand to watch him get hurt!

    Even as a kid I liked that first season a bit better because it was somewhat darker. I also prefer the 2nd over the 3rd through 6th as it kept some of that crime/noir feeling before the series began its journey into full on comic book land by seasons 5 and 6. It seemed like almost every season after the second had at least *one* "silly" episode, especially those featuring Professor Pepperwinkle. I didn't much care for those and have *never* liked the one "Great Caesar's Ghost" from S3 where Perry is "haunted" by Caesar's ghost and typically didn't like the more "sentimental" episodes. I wanted *action* and *adventure* which many of those lacked.

    I also like Phyllis Coats a bit better as Lois because she's more independent and not so much the "damesl in distress". Even so, I still associate Noel Neill more closely with the Lois part and was surprised several years ago to find she'd played Lois in the Superman serials (Superman (1948) and Atom Man vs. Superman (1950)). I'd not seen nor heard of those serials prior to purchasing them on DVD as the local stations where I grew up aired mostly the Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers serials. I *really* love this series!
     
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    Always a favorite, and I've watched the box sets to death. The black and white episodes were far better mysteries and hid the small production budgets better than the color ones.

    I don't have a favorite Lois; each brought something special to the series and they're really different people.

    But my favorite parts are the cantankerous Perry bawling out the timid Jimmy. John Hamilton and Jack Larson are just superb in these roles.

    I understand if Reeves hadn't died, Pierre Watkin, who played Perry in the serials, was going to assume the role of Perry for the 7th season since Hamilton had died. Maybe it's better those didn't get made. I just love John Hamilton as Perry.
     
  7. Vic Pardo

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    Since Thursday evening I've watched 28 episodes from my box sets of "Adventures of Superman," all in preparation for a blog entry commemorating George Reeves' centennial today, Jan. 5, 2014. Here's the link:

    http://briandanacamp.wordpress.com/

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  8. Gary OS

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    I believe 2014 might be the worst year yet for b/w releases since the late 90's, which was the birth of TV on DVD. Right now I count exactly 3 b/w releases for the first three months of this year. I'm not counting repackaged releases (like Bewitched) or those that have previously been released in complete sets (like Dobie Gillis). I also count the split season releases as one (like Rawhide S7).

    That's a truly dismal number. It might get a little better as the year moves forward, but at this point I doubt we'll average more than a couple of new b/w releases per month, which will be the worst ratio since about 1999.


    Gary " oh well, at least my wallet will be happy" O. :P
     
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    As a quick follow-up, if just three companies released as many b/w season sets as they did last year, I'd be absolutely thrilled. I'm speaking of Timeless, TGG and CBS. All three of those companies also released color seasons of shows I bought, so they really got a lot of my money. If these companies could just match their output from last year it would be great. Unfortunately, from what I see and hear, that's almost assuredly not going to happen. I'm concerned none of them will match last year's b/w release numbers. This is why I personally feel like the ride really is coming to a close. But if that's the case, all I have to do is look at my shelves filled with b/w favorites and a smile crosses my face. So it's all good in spite of the apparent bad news.


    Gary "TGG in particular was a pleasant surprise last year, releasing a dozen or so b/w season sets" O.
     
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    Yes, 2014 might be the worst year yet for b/w releases and one of the reason for this is the fact that two companies are now really quiet compare to what they used to be.- TMG (Timeless Media Group) is not the same company they used to be before the buyout by Shout, in fact TMG is almost dead.- TGG (The Garr Group) after a promising and spectacular start (Highway Patrol, Bat Masterson, Sea Hunt, Ripcord) the last offering from that company is My Mother the Car (a color sitcom from the 60's) and nothing coming from them after that.Both of these companies were a big part of the B&W TV on DVD world but it seems no more.
     
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    Bingo, on both counts. It's really a shame too. :(


    Gary "Timeless has all but dried up since the Shout takeover, and in terms of b/w releases things don't look to get any better this year" O.

    P.S. I really, really, really do want to be wrong [fingers crossed].

    P.P.S. This doesn't mean we won't see A-N-Y b/w releases. Of course we will. Just not nearly as many as in years past from what I can tell right now. The b/w output will simply be way down in the companies I've mentioned (unless a minor miracle takes place).
     
  12. Ron1973

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    I think the bright spot is that CBS is doing HD transfers for Our Miss Brooks. I know that doesn't ultimately guarantee a DVD/Blu-ray release but it's a bright spot. I just have to wonder what's going to come out of the clear blue to surprise us this year.
     
  13. Gary OS

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    Right now that's the best guess for a "pleasant surprise" on the b/w front, Ron. No doubt about it. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.


    Gary "the other one that would qualify in my book is The Rebel, but we'll just have to wait and see if that one makes it" O.
     
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    Does anyone know whether Our Miss Brooks was particularly different on television than on radio. I never thought it was that great of a radio show.
     
  15. Randy Korstick

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    I hope we see The Rebel as well and Our Miss Brooks is a pleasant surprise.
    From the information we have so far Warner Archive should be releasing more Black and White TV shows than they did last year so thats a small win on the positive side.
    We know more Maverick, Dr. Kildare and Sugarfoot are on the way this year as well as Bronco.
    They have strongly hinted at 77 Sunset Strip for this year as part of their quote: "more long awaited classic TV shows". That quote most likely includes some color shows as well.
    They also mentioned that they plan to remaster The Dakotas for a release "if not this year then in 2015".
    The Dakotas news should make a few people happy in this forum :)
     
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    Other than the concern with changing priorities at Timeless, I'm not sure I get the concern about 2014. To a large extent, a decline in B&W releases will be a product of the success of releasing black and white shows. For example, TGG could have held back and released the shows they released in 2013 over time instead of all at once. In other cases, where CBS is releasing color seasons of shows that began as black and white (Gunsmoke, Petticoat Junction, Beverly Hillbillies), I see that as a good thing. If I look back two or three years ago at many of the all black and white shows I wanted most (Beaver, Dennis the Menace, Hazel, Dobie Gillis), they all now all out in full. For 2014, I am still hoping that we may see more ZIV releases and I am looking forward to finishing Maverick. Of course, to me, the one most inexplicable absense from the black and white tvshowsondvd is the rest of Bilko. The fact that it is apparently still stalled is the most frustrating aspect to me of the black and white situation.
     
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    Of course there will always be some decrease as series are finished off or move into color. I get all that. But Timeless and, to a lesser degree, TGG were giving us some of the lesser known titles - of which there are many, many more. If they are slowing down, that's a bad sign for b/w TV on DVD overall.


    Gary "yes, we've got most of the well known b/w titles, but there are so many more that I'd love to see released" O.
     
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    Surely you are talking about me, among others. :D
     
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    I hope MPI can release the remaining seasons of the Donna Reed Show.
     
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    This is really true. I think many of us were hoping for shows like World Of Giants , Waterfront , Evergaldes , Dragnet , etc . And I wonder what's going on with the many unreleased Desilu shows like December Bride , Peter and Gladys , Whirleybirds etc . I have my fingers crossed on Desilu's Our Miss Brooks .
     
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