Hello fellow HTF'ers, To start with, none of this is directed at any members of this forum, living or dead. It is merely a set of observations I have made for the last 4 years, and the reactions I face when discussing this movie. 1) Yes, it won the Best Picture award in 1997. And I agree that the award doesn't always go to deserving pictures. Sometimes the best aren't even nominated. At the time, it was riding an unprecedented wave of adulation and coverage. 2) Yes, it is the highest grossing movie of all time, both at home and abroad. 3) No, it won no screenplay awards. 4) none of the previous things should mean anything to someone who loves movies. 5) There are legitimate complaints about Titanic, as with any movie, be it Tomb Raider or Pulp Fiction or Schindler's List. But let's start at the beginning (or better yet, late 1997)...this was JC's first movie after True Lies. It had a infamous and troubled shoot, considered by most to be as arduous as ever filmed. It had proceeded to go well beyond budget, forcing Cameron to forgo his directing fee (although not his screenwriting fee). Paramount and Fox were playing F'me, F'me games regarding the premiere since they both had distribution rights (Paramount - home and Fox - abroad) even though it was essentially Fox's movie. But as people saw the movie (critics mostly), the bad press become good buzz. So on December 19, 1997, it premiered against Tomorrow Never Dies. The SDTRK had been out since Thanksgiving, and was like all other SDTRK's...a mediocre seller. The movie made 27 million that weekend, not bad for a 3 hour running time. There was one book out. James Cameron's Titanic, a softcover book with photos and anecdotes, similar to many other blockbusters. I had to preorder one and B&N, because they weren't going to get any in. So what does it matter? The point is simple...the movie was hyped just like any other holiday movie. On December 19, 1997, it was just another movie. One week later, everybody was talking about it and telling their friends to see it. Theaters were selling out. Young girls are falling in love with DiCaprio, and asking to go again. One month later, the SDTRK is number 1, and Celine's song has more airtime than commercials. Two months later, it is on the cover of every magazine, and every hack somewhere is trying to make a buck using the name or the story. So why hate the movie? I know of several people who hate it, and haven't even seen it. Why? Principle? To maintain status as an aesthete, as a "true" lover of movies? Why condemn the movie for the phenomenon that followed it (as said in another post)? I have heard it called overrated and undeserving. Based on what? The power of movies is transportation, suspension of disbelief, and wonder. Titanic provided more of it for more moviegoers than any movie since GWTW, as evidenced by it's popularity and gross. How did it do that? DiCaprio? No, The Beach didn't do very well, and neither did The Man in the Iron Mask. Is the movie hated because girls loved him/his character? To the movie...I am not going to make any trite defenses. There are those that have consciously seen it for the story/movie it is, WITHOUT preconceptions or a negative frame of mind, who did not care for it. Bravo! The fate of every movie. But the hate directed at this movie is unfounded and unjust. It is a technically accurate, brave production of a solid script. Again, it is not perfect. I am tired of people hating it to be trendy, or to set themselves apart for that reason alone. It is hated by some just because it is loved by others. 1997 had a lot of great movies...Face/Off, Contact, LA Confidential, Batman and Robin (just making sure you are actually reading this), and so on. If you haven't seen it, or you saw if after the world took notice and showered it with attention, give it a chance on it's own merits. Both Janet Maslin and Roger Ebert have very positive (there are other negative ones if that is to your taste) reviews online somewhere. I feel that Titanic is a GREAT movie. I am eagerly awaiting a SE (which will be a LONG while) to do it justice. If you made it this far, thanks for your time and open mind. Take care Chuck ------------------ He had a plan. Maybe you just didn't see it 'til it hit you between the eyes. But, it started to make sense... in a Tyler sort of way. No fear. No distractions. The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide.