I got quoted/slammed at AICN for bashing Freddy Got Fingered! (1 Viewer)

[Scott Weinberg]

Every review this guy writes is built around a “clever” quote like this. And he’s right... we all know that executives only make films better. Too bad they weren’t more involved here.
---"Moriarty", AICN

This guy basically knocks a whole bunch of reviewers who had the audacity to bash the cinematic masterwork that is Freddy Got Fingered. (You can read the full article http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=10575

 

[Nigel McN]

I guess it's something Drew McWeeny feels strongly about

 

[Matthew Chmiel]

Wow, the only person I thought was a decent human being at AICN ends up being a major dick.
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[Robyn Young]

If it's any consolation, I really didn't like Freddy Got Fingered at all. I probably can't talk, because I only watched about the first 24 minutes. After that, I just couldn't watch it. I did watch the 3 minute PG version, though.
It's one thing to bash a movie, giving reasons as to why. It's another entirely to bash negative reviewers in an attempt to justify the movie's existence.
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[Mike Broadman]

AICN are a bunch of hacks. They are not respected at all by the entertainment industry. As little respect as I have for critics (no offense, Scott), at least some people care about what Ebert and the like have to say. AICN's "reviews" are about as respectable and worthwhile as some 13 year old retard half asleep and hopped up on whip-its jotting down his observations.
[Edited last by Mike Broadman on November 01, 2001 at 09:24 AM]

 

[Joel Mack]

I think "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" summed up my feelings for everyone at AICN (and similar sites) perfectly...
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[DaveF]

As pleased as I am to be quoted alongside Roger Ebert and James Berardinelli, being knocked by someone at AICN isn't exactly the kind of attention I appreciate.

I'm amused by the irony of a film critic disliking criticism. I'm sure the Freddy Got Fingered people had similar thoughts regarding your review of their work.
Seriously, regarding, "being knocked by someone at AICN isn't exactly the kind of attention I appreciate." Is it criticism from AICN that you specifically dislike, or just criticism in general (a sentiment I empathize with)?

 

[Nate Anderson]

Yeah, I also try to avoid AICN, myself. I get my news of Dark Horizons, and if anything noteworthy shows up from AICN, it'll show up there.
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Also, I get all my DVD news of either the Digital Bits or DVDFile, whichever is first...
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[Brian Lawrence]

Scott,
Always remember this - "Insults from assholes are the best compliments one can receive"

 

[Ross Williams]

Aint It Cool News is full of hacks. It's because the majority of the people writing in are illiterate 16 year olds. Although Moriarty is surrounded by idiots, he actually knows what the hell he's talking about. If you've ever read any of his other stuff, you know that he's very well educated in film.
And for this article, I couldn't have agreed more with Moriarty (Drew McWeeny). I thought the same thing when Freddy Got Fingered came out. I saw the film, in no way was it a "good" film, but there was no way that it deserved the beating that it got. The film made me laugh pretty consitantly, while also being better directed and acted than many other films of this type. I saw a lot of films that were worse this year.
It seemed like critics would have got booted from their "union" if they didn't give the film the most scathing review of their lives. I think the marketing team behind the film, should have used those reviews in their advertising, the audience that gets Tom Green's humor would have dug it.
In general I think that's the problem with many reviewers, it seems that most are afraid to stand up for a film, whether they like it or don't, it's appears they're afraid to have different thoughts than the others. You read reviews and they all start to sound the same. (In no way is this a dis against you Scott, I don't know you or your work well enough to say that.)
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[MatthewA]

That the man cited PINK FLAMINGOS as an excuse to justify "Freddy Got Fingered..."
If Divine were alive, she would give that yutz the same treatment she gave the villains...
Spoiler:shooting them after a fake trial
The worst thing about FGF is probably its testament to the state of Julie Hagerty's career.
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[Brad_W]

Just remember, that dumbass liked Freddy Got Fingered. Basically, whatever he says after that, doesn't count.
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[TheLongshot]

Well, Mr. McWeeny isn't the only one online who is a proponent of the film. Jeffery Wells also liked the film and defended it in his column.
As for my feelings about the movie, I've decided that I just don't get Tom Green, and that's fine. I think where this movie gets nailed is the fact that gross out jokes have been driven into the ground and aren't funny anymore. It means, tho, that it overshadows any other redeeming qualities the film had.
Jason
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[Dome Vongvises]

I wouldn't worry too much about it, Mr. Weinberg. I only go to AICN for laughs, and Moriarty just proves my case.
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[Mitty]

You've been told, Scotty. I bet your mother told you all the time, not to be such a smart alec. They're just reminding you, pointing out your cheeky reviews.
The thing about the "critics" at AICN is that they can offer no real world perspective on anything. They all exist in their own little world; the only thing they can reference in reviews is other films. One gets the impression that they don't spend a lot of time with the three dimensional people.
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[Seth Paxton]

There is a difference between criticism and plain badmouthing. And that is why Scott is put off. He tries to make an entertaining read for people that also actually points out what he did/not like about a film.
That is what critical writing is all about. Presenting your point, not resorting to simply name calling, and trying to make it entertaining for the reader.
What AICN seems to have going on more and more is 14 year old mentality, safe behind a CPU, name calling and trivial bashing.
I have no problem with someone liking Freddie Got Fingered. I love to read Welles columns. He presents points as to WHY he feels the way he does, and even considers contradictory opinions from readers. So it's got nothing to do with the critic disagreeing with your taste, and everything to do with their ability to respect the subject and their audiance.
Do you really think Moriarty is "respecting" Scott's efforts at this point?
Anyway, Scott, I would hardly sweat it.

 

[Dome Vongvises]

Lesson #432 in Film Analysis
- Never, ever, resort to the critique of a reviewer's character in evaluating a film/movie.
Unfortunately, it just occured to me that such a thing isn't limited to AICN.

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[AJ Johnson]

I'm amused by the irony of a film critic disliking criticism. I'm sure the Freddy Got Fingered people had similar thoughts regarding your review of their work.

I couldn't agree more lol.
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[DaveF]

There is a difference between criticism and plain badmouthing

I didn't get that from Scott's posted quote, but I didn't read the actual article (I don't read AICN). I understand Scott's complaint being that he didn't like another reviewer commenting negatively on his review (an amusing irony, as I said). But if it was more a character attack, that's bothersome.

 

[Scott Weinberg]

Moriarty is not a film critic. If he were, this thread would probably never have been posted.
1. Most movie critics have too much class to make personal attacks on other reviewers.
2. A reviewer's main goal is to inform (people, the masses, movie fans, etc.) and analyze a film. I doubt the day will ever come that I write a positive review solely because I fear criticism.
Legitimate criticism of my work is something I've handled in the past, and I'm certain that those comments made me a better writer.
But this article just smacks of pettiness and derision, and I didn't appreciate it.
If you think a reviewer like myself deserves to be bashed for his opinions, well that's fine. I happen to disagree.
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