HTF REVIEW: "American Pie 2"

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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    American Pie 2

    Keep it real, Homies
    American Pie 2 is a pale comparison to the
    original, and could easily be an ignored film if not
    for two hilarious sequences in the film -- one involving
    supposed Lesbians who want revenge, and, a masturbation
    sequence that involves steel-bonding glue.
    The entire gang from the first film is reunited
    for the Summer. The boys decide to head for the lake
    and make this the last and most memorable party Summer
    of their lives. Renting a house, the boys want nothing
    more than to get laid. So why is James Levenstien
    (Jason Biggs) so nervous? It's because his famous
    internet fling, Nadia (Shannon Elizabeth), is returning
    to rekindle some romance, and he's not certain he can
    satisfy her. In the meantime, Finch (Eddie Kaye Thomas)
    is preparing himself for the return of Stifler's Mom,
    as Stifler (Seann William Scott) tries to hook himself
    up with Lesbians. Our two favorite couples, Oz
    (Chris Klein) and Heather (Mena Suvari) are trying to
    enjoy some long distance phone sex that always seems
    to get interrupted.
    Yes, American Pie 2 is brimming with sexual
    misconduct and material that would make a teenager
    blush -- however -- most of it is recycled material
    from the original film and very little of what is seen
    in this film seems very fresh. The laughs don't come
    nearly as often, and the film goes out of its way to
    make a sort of moral message.
    Overall transfer quality is excellent. The 5.1 DTS
    track sounds very clean with strong, robust sound.
    There wasn't too much surround action except for crowd
    noises and supplemental music ambiance.
    Fortunately, Universal has put out a Collector's
    Edition (Rated & Unrated) that puts some spark back
    into what the movie loses. Boasting over 10 hours of
    entertainment, this DVD packs many more Special Features
    than a film like this deserves.
    In addition to (count 'em) 4 separate feature
    commentaries (Director, Writer, and 2 groups of cast)...
    The Baking of American Pie 2 begins with a
    rather fun MTV-ish montage of on-screen and off-screen
    antics that really shows you how much fun the cast had
    in making this movie. Moving along, we meet Director
    J.B. Rogers; Producer Chris Moore and Screenwriter
    Adam Herz who talk about how they wanted this sequel
    to follow the original. The documentary then breaks
    down each individual major cast member where we meet
    the actor behind the character. Unfortunately, both
    Shannon Elizabeth and Mena Suvari get barely noticeable
    mentions in this documentary, and geez, isn't that who
    we guys want to see the most?
    The most fun you can have with this disc is watching
    the various outtakes.
    It begins with the 10 minute montage of Hilarious
    Outtakes and Deleted Scenes, which is a real blast
    to watch! Set to totally rockin' music, we see all
    the off-camera antics that happened on the set. I
    have so much admiration for Jason Biggs who really
    has no shame in trying just about anything embarrassing.
    It's a real fun montage of the American Pie gang.
    Outtakes is the film's official gagreel, that
    packs the film's funniest editing room cuts that include
    flubbed lines and misplaced hands. Watch for an
    extremely funny scene where Nadia is shooting pool as
    two lovers upstairs shoot something else. One of the
    better gagreels I have seen presented on DVD (next to
    the ARMAGEDDON gagreel).
    I counted 7 Deleted Scenes, some of which are
    extensions of existing scenes as well as a few new
    scenes. The material ultimately slows down the pace
    of the film and other than a scene involving Jim's
    diarrhea, none of the material is funny.
    A terrific inclusion to this DVD is the Original
    Casting Tapes from American Pie, that give you a
    first-hand look at the original auditions that won
    the actors their roles. My favorite is a very cute
    Alysson Hanigon (Michelle) first giving her famous
    band camp line. She's so cute as she delivers it and
    then looks so innocently into the video camera
    afterwards.
    There is a 3 Doors Down music video for the
    song, Be Like That. In addition, you can
    select your favorite pieces of music from the film
    using the Music Highlights menu. Songs are
    displayed according to film chapter, and once you
    click on that song, you are taken to the exact scene
    in the film which the song appears.
    Your favorite piece of Pie is a Top 10
    countdown hosted by Seann William Scott. Fans
    everywhere selected their top 10 favorite scenes
    from both movies. You'll have the opportunity to
    personally review all 10 scene selections presented
    in highlighted form.
    Classic Quotes gives you over a dozen of the
    film's best lines that you can click on and actually
    see delivered in the film.
    The Original Theatrical Trailer is included
    with a humorous introduction from Jason Biggs.
    There are included Production Notes which
    give text background on what the filmmakers envisioned
    when putting together this sequel, as well as
    Cast and Filmmaker Bios that give you personal
    background and resumes of the actors, actresses and
    filmmakers involved in this film.
    There are DVD ROM features, special offers,
    and if you look around, a trailer is included for
    the upcoming Matt Damon thriller, The Bourne
    Identity.
    Final Thoughts
    It's kind of strange for me to tell all of you
    that I actually enjoyed the supplemental material
    on this disc better than the movie itself. However,
    this really is a fun disc to explore after the film
    is over.
    American Pie 2 will make a worthwhile rental,
    and most will buy it only to complete the collection.
    Since the review copy I received was the RATED
    VERSION, I look forward to seeing this film again
    for the added UNRATED material.
    Release Date: January 15, 2002
     
  2. Ryan Peter

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    Ron, is Nadia naked in this movie?
     
  3. Ronald Epstein

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    In the RATED version, no.

    From memory, the only nudity that occurs

    is from one of the Lesbians with the small

    breasts.

    Hoping the UNRATED version has more.
     
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    Does the rated version include any of the four commentaries from the unrated disc?
     
  5. Ryan Peter

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    OK, I did see a bootleg clip of Nadia naked in this movie, so hopefully they will add that in to the NR version.
     
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    I'm looking forward to picking up the unrated version. I thought AP2 was just as funny as the first one.
     
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    Yes, I am with the crowd that thought this one was at least as funny, and maybe funnier than the first. I will definately be getting the unrated version.
     
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    Thanks for the review Ron!

    I'll go for the unrated version of this movie, since i dont want any censoring, It kinda takes the humour away.

    Was practicly the same for the first movie, the rated version and unrated felt like 2 different movies.
     
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    Ron : Any chance people can get a small e-mail note, when you review movies?
     
  12. John_McKittrick

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    I'm sorry I disagree. AP2 was a heck of alot funnier than the first. It was all Stifler in this movie. The Band Camp scenes were great and the lesbian scene.....don't get me started. A great movie and a must buy.

    John
     
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    Great idea, Peter.

    Me to, please.
     
  14. Ryan Peter

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    I'd also be interested in getting on some sort of email notification list for Ron's reviews.
     
  15. Ronald Epstein

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    I have a separate website already set up with

    all my 50+ reviews since this past Summer.

    I just need to dress it up a little.

    When it's ready in about a week, I'll post the

    address, and this way you guys can bookmark it

    and then check to see what is new.

    I'd hate to have to start a mailing list as

    it is just too much work.

    BTW....

    It makes me laugh that you guys take so much

    interest in what I write. It's flattering. Thanks.
     
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    I am really looking forward to the Unrated version of the film. My wife and I both felt Pie 2 was just as funny as the 1st. My wife actually thought it was funnier. [​IMG]
    There are some great classic moments in the film and the Lesbian scene is just hilarious.
    -Dean-
     
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    Well - I will have to say that I love AP2 as

    much as the first one, if not a bit more. Reason being

    that it cut out all the 'sappy' puppy love theme that

    existed in the first movie. Also, as stated above, Stiller

    does steal this movie hands down.

    Oh yes! The lesbian scene is classic! Definitely one

    of the best comedic scenes I have seen in a long time.
     
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    i think this movie was one of my faves 2001, if not my favorite. as always, thanks ron for the wonderful review. i can't wait for the wonderful dvd releases. I'll be buying both the unrated and r versions.
     
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