Okay, but the thing I don't understand here is that you mention the HORROR OF DRACULA framing, yet it was you who used to spend post after post after post defending Warner's transfer, saying everyone was over-reacting ... remember?
But in the case of Warner's HOD, I felt uncomforatbly crrmped while watching it, with the tops of people's heads constantly cut off. I felt there was something wrong from the start.
Also, I didn't mean to come across that Rhett was "trying to stir up trouble". BUT I will say this -- the screen shot of the dark camp at night is NOT as "washed out and brightened" as it appears on the site's screen grab, not at all. That's a misnomer.
OK, my bad there. Now that you mention it, I did notice the same thing there. Perhaps that was the one time I'd felt we needed a little more on the bottom.
That's certainly good to know as I was able to rent the disc (not paying $30+ for it). I haven't gone through it yet but I've got the other two versions here to compare. I will say that the screenshots appear too light but if it's just the screenshots then it's why I said earlier that I don't put too much credit into them (nor do studios who see them as a joke).
I think one has the right to question if Paramount screwed up again because they did screw up on the opening titles of part 3. A minor mistake, perhaps like the framing here, but still a mistake.
It's still not verified whether the framing of new release (and keep in mind it's not just the Blu-ray, but also the new SD) is "correct", or if it's the older ones have been "correct". But I do think the end with the too-tight closeups of King and Palmer tell a tale.
I think the bottom line is to watch the new release and see if it makes you uncomfortable. Many reviews went out already and nobody was aware of any "zooming". The question is, can you still enjoy it, or are you bothered by it? At least that's the way I'm getting as I turn older. Some things just aren't as important. But I guess it depends on the release in question, too.
The screenshots don't reflect what I'm seeing in regards to brightness. While it didn't bother me, the zooming is open to debate but I don't see any problem with the brightness level.
I'd recommend this disc to any F13 fan but if anyone is worried about the questions that have been raised, I'd say rent it and make up your own mind.
On second thought, the European uncut version may have always had tighter framing. Certainly, the screen shots on horrordigital.com don't look the same, but the ones on cap-a-holic.com show a very similar difference between the Friday the 13th US boxset DVD framing and the DE uncut DVD framing and what we're seeing with the new US BD/DVD framing and previous domestic releases.
Take a look at Comparison #7 in particular. Mrs. Voorhees' chin has been hacked off with the machete of questionable framing!
It would seem they used a similar print as the European release for the purposes of uncut. Any idea why the framing would have been adjusted? Print damage perhaps?
Don't some European countries have 1.66:1 as the widescreen standard? Perhaps this framing was done in an effort to make it more accessible to that market?
Any one try contacting Paramount yet? There contact number was not easily available on their site. Found it on DVDtalk but have not tried it yet. I'd take an uncut print in the original aspect ratio over this.
I watched the disc last night and the cropping is pretty noticeable in some shots. Headroom on some objects is gone completely (look for the gas pumps as an example). Sigh.
Then you're too busy worrying about headroom instead of just enjoying the film. I'd doubt Paramount will address this, because it's not a big deal at all, and only of interest to a relatively tiny cluster of people whining on the internet. The majority of consumers won't even notice or care.
Not at all. I'm overly familiar with the film too and, having watched it last night, found myself somewhat distracted by the obvious cropping. It didn't stop me from enjoying the first Crystal Lake bloodbath, but it IS there and it IS noticeable.
I'm not sure that Paramount will care very much, but I would be interested see if they'll comment.
If you can notice the cropping betwene the two releases, you have a near photographic memory of the movie.
Like I said before though, what's to say that the DVD was right in the first place? I'm not saying that the DVD wasn't correct but I don't see any way to say which one is the correct one.
I was very pleased by the transfer, which looked filmlike and overall seemed outstanding, with no sign of EE or excessive filtering, the latter of which has been a problem on many Paramount HD titles.
Manfredini's score sounds incredible in TrueHD; the presence of the musical instruments and their clarity drops them right in your lap. I'm not usually a fan of 5.1 versions of mono tracks but this is an exception.
Too bad about the cropping, though a tighter European version might make some sense; I'm not familiar enough with the different variants of this movie around the globe to know for sure. You certainly wouldn't want shifting aspect ratios for the uncut stuff.
Having only seen the film twice (from the 1999 dvd), I'm looking forward to the Blu-ray & probably won't notice the cropping much. But an explanation would be good to hear from Paramount.
(And I'm trying to get through all sequels before seeing the remake. Made it to Pt 7, but some it has been tough going!)
I just ordered this from amazon. I probably won't notice the cropping either. Hopefully we do get a reason and Paramount gets to releasing the rest on Blu.