How do you Identify the ORIGINAL Devil's Advocate?

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  1. Rob Lutter

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    What were the distinguishing marks? Thanks if you can help! [​IMG]
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    bumpity bump bump...
     
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    The first one has two red bars on the back, a second one below the credit listing.
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    ok...guess I didn't get the original...thanks for your help... I think i'll trade it back in for Waynes World: The Complete Epic [​IMG]
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    Rob,
    1) Do not bump.
    2) If you ignore rule one, wait more than an hour for godssake. Most times questions will not be answered within the first five minutes you post them- this bumping after only waiting 40 minutes for a reply is extremely rude.
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  6. Drew Mertz

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    Also on the spine of the original version it does not say special edition.
    Check out places that sell used DVDs, I see them all the time.
     
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    excuse my ignorance but whats the difference?
     
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    the difference is that in Al Pacino's character's office there is a huge statue of nude people in a huge swirl (a rough description [​IMG] ) which was very simular to a piece made by a sculptor who was never compensated or even credited... long story short, he sued Warner and they digitally changed the statue in the scenes it is in... at least that is what I believe happened... hope that helps...
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    I've never seen the original film, but have seen it on video... (with the altered, abstract statuary). However, I am from DC, so I am somewhat familiar with the legal debacle. Apparently, the original statuary was very similar to a Frederick Hart piece, called "Ex Nihilo", which serves as the tympanum of the central portal of the National Cathedral. A picture can be found at http://www.frederickhart.com/nihilo.htm
    It is unlikely that Hart would have given the producers the rights, had they asked. Interestingly, Hart was a ultra-realist-- regarded by some as rather kitschy. The replacement artwork is probably as anti-Hart as you can get.
    http://www.artnet.com/magazine/news/...ews2-19-98.asp
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    I have the original laser disc version.
    are there two versions on dvd allso?
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    The easiest way I've found to tell the two apart is to check the spine. The number on the spine of the original (now rare) edition is:
    * 15090
    The new edition with the computer-altered scene of the statuary is numbered:
    * 16172
    These numbers are also represented in characters 6-10 of the bottom number on the UPC code (start counting with the "Leading 0" as character #1).
    I paid $49 via eBay for my copy of the original edition. Ironically - especially considering the film's subject matter - I purchased my copy from an attorny! > [​IMG]
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    What would the original laserdisc version be worth?
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  14. David Lambert

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    I paid $49 via eBay for my copy
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    I saw one used for $15 at a Wherehouse yesterday...
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    DAMN!!!! [​IMG]
     
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    Hello!
    I just want clarification about what exactly is different between the two versions. I have the R2 version, with the 2nd red disclaimer box, but the number is 16172.
    However, if someone could just inform me if the sculpture is completely removed from the censored version, because in my version the sculpture morphs into human forms when Lomax enters the penthouse and the statues "engage" later on...
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    In the ORIGINAL version, the sculpture features human figures throughout the film. These figures come to life for the film's climax.
    In the EDITED version, the sculpture is present throughout the film, but the human figures have been removed from it — it's now just an abstract swirl. For the film's climax, the human figures "morph" into it, and it remains unchanged for the rest of the film.
     

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