Homemade widescreen vs. P&S examples :-)

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  1. Brian Lawrence

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    I was very bored today so I created my own little example of widescreen vs. Pan & Scan. It's just a photo that I took and decided to tool around with (I don't have the equiptment to do screen captures of actual movies) [​IMG]
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    1. As the full (2.35) image would appear projected on a movie theater screen.
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    2.The image when visual information has been chopped
    of the sides to fill a (1.33) TV screen which is more square
    shapped than a rectangle movie theater screen.
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    3.The widescreen/letterboxed version, contains the
    whole (2.35) image seen in the above theater screen
    example. The black bars are not covering anything up,
    they are just filling in dead space.
     
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    Yup. That's pretty much how it works. [​IMG]
     
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    But I would think to be fair about it (if "fair" is the right word), you should 'pan' to the left, while you 'scan' the larger picture, to get the entrance to the covered bridge in the shot. That is likely your focal point.
    I had to laugh. While I was channel surfing the other day, I saw a scene from Die Hard 3. Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson were tied back-to-back to a metal pole. The pan-and-scan version I was watching focused on the pole and you could see neither one of their faces during a rather lengthy amount of conversation! [​IMG] Classic.
     
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  6. Veli-Matti Reitti

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    Great work Brian but like Mike said they really don't reflect reality.
    Try this link for a more accurate comparison:
    http:///www.widescreenadvocate.com/
    I remember there being a P&S/Widescreen comparison of the ending scene of Star Wars: Return of the Jedi here at the HTF a while ago. Sorry i can't find it but that comparison really showed the true nature of P&S more than any other i've seen.
     
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    With all of the unfair tactics and purposely unrevealed facts here, you'd think being pro-OAR was a deceptive practice.

    DJ
     
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    I love this comic!
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    Chris.
     
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    Chris,

    that is *classic*. Where did you get that?

    -dave
     
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    These examples are more than a little misleading and do not contribute to the OAR cause.
     
  11. Chris M

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    David, can't remember, probably someone's home theater website [​IMG]
    Chris.
     
  12. Ken Garrison

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    I have a hard matte panoramic 35 MM camera and I got a picture of what I took. Here are some comparisons.
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    Here you can see both cats. One eating, and one snoozing. They're sisters BTW
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    To make that fill the screen, I had to cut Munchkin out, the cat that WAS on the right.
    OR
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    I can cut out Spot and have Munchkin show in the picture.
    OR THIS, which won't work.
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    This doesn't work because the pictures is about the cats and you barely see them at all. You see Munchkin's paw and you're lucky if you can see Spot's stuffing her face at all. I've seen pan and scan films just as bad as this. Sometimes referred as Talking Noses, where you only see the front of their faces on each side of the screen and not the rest of their head. Like I said before, it sucks. OAR all the way!!!
     
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    Ken,
    Nice example. [​IMG]
    DJ
    P.S. Cute cats, too.
     
  14. Ken Garrison

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    Thanks. Sorry the pictures are so BIG. LOL
     
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  18. Ken Garrison

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    HEY! LET's SEE some MORE EXAMPLES!!!!!!
     
  19. Brian Lawrence

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    Last one.
     
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    Here's a 1.78:1 example...
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