HD DVD Outpacing All Next-Gen Formats in Sales Growth (1 Viewer)

[Jari K]

"North American HD DVD Promotional Group today announced..."

Yes, finally some unbiased facts!

 

[ppltd]

Kind of like Sony announcing a price cut on one model only to find out the next day it was only a close out special. And the new model will be at the old price.
Just what do you expect from the organizations from either side of the show. All of the press releases may be based in fact, but lack substance to make any meaningful evaluation. We have proved beyond a doubt that you can twist numbers any way you want to make them support the outcome you are looking for Just look at the

 

[ppltd]

Of course, pointed out by a Blu-Ray fanboy?

 

[Harminder]

Why do I have a feeling those numbers for blu-ray don't include PS3...

 

[Jari K]

You have a point. With stand-alone players (not including PS3 and Xbox 360), HD DVD should be in the lead, since they´re almost giving those players for free.

Seriously, if I would be living in the US and cheaper Toshiba is under 250$ (it was just a few days ago in Amazon), I would probably buy it in a heartbeat. Then I could buy a couple of those Universal-titles. For that price, who cares if the format loses.. (uups. I just revealed the strategy of HD DVD, sorry.. ).

With important software-sales, I guess the Blu-camp is ahead?

 

[MarekM]

orignal name of thread on avs "Toshiba sold 55% of standalones in US? "[b/]
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=876794

hmm interesting, so with all those droping prices on HD-DVD standalones,
they only get 55% of standalones market ? well not big change from january.... when we had last report about 52%-48%


http://www.current.com.au/2007/07/17...JABMCUABX.html

 

[troy evans]

I think Tim was trying to share some positive HD DVD news.There's been a lot of positive Bluray news posted everywhere.What's the big deal.This goes back to the whole" Bluray does good that's okay,HD DVD does good no damn way"crap that seems to be all around.Bluray supporters need to deal with it the same way they expect HD DVD supporters to when the shoes on the other foot.I mean,"BS press release" or "It's posted in the wrong thread"arguements,is that all You got?

 

[Jari K]

If these figures indeed doesn´t include e.g. PS3 sales, then I would say that this is just HD DVD-camp and their propaganda. Sure, it can be "good news" for the fans, but if it´s not "news" in the first place.. ..

With the recent and current prices with Toshiba-players, they SHOULD lead the sales in stand-alone players (and also in game consoles - Xbox 360 has been on the markets forever and PS3 has just started..).

 

[Ed St. Clair]

Too badd the PR #'s don't add up to the weekly, quarterly, YTD software sales #'s!

 

[ppltd]

They were stating stand-alone numbers and excluded the PS3 and the HD DVD add-on.

 

[RickER]

Promotional Group, thats the first 2 words in Tims linked post. Both sides like to stir the pot, both like to make out like the winner. But still in my mind, i yawn when i look at the titles for the most part, on both sides. In 2 months i have 5 BD discs, but i bet i bought 10 standard DVDs. Most of those TV shows.

 

[ppltd]

The XBox 360 has been on the market for only 20 Months. This is hardly forever. The PS3, while only on the market for a bit over 8 months, it can hardly be called 'just started'.

 

[Jim_K]

I'd punch myself in the face if I dropped serious coin on a Blu-Ray player just to watch upconverted DVD's.

An Oppo player would've been the cheaper and smarter buy.

 

[Cees Alons]

If the PS3 was included in the comparison, would indeed the growth in sales from Q1 -> Q2 2007 outpace that of HD DVD players in the same period?


Cees

 

[RickER]

I love my player. But i know where you come from. I have a friend who spent $1200 on a great Denon DVD player. I think he has a wonderful machine. But i spent $500 on a Sony Blu-Ray that looks as good as his Denon, its less than 1/2 what he payed, AND it players Blu-Ray. My Sony DVD player (7700), still my best player cost me $900 in, 98? I looked at the Oppo, and would have bought one if not for the lower price point of the new Blu players.

 

[ReggieW]

It would be nice to see a press release from HD-DVD on their hopefully forthcoming "heavy hitter" 4th quarter releases - something with some substance fora change. I do agree that these press releases from BOTH CAMPS usually don't amount to a hill of beans. There seems to be a new one almost daily these days. I frankly would not put much stock in any of them.

Are you listening Mr. Hunt?

 

[Jari K]

Ok, fair enough. I forgot my "Blu"-shades on. I have no real desire joining to the game console-debate. It´s for the 16-years old, with pimples. But I´ll say this: Xbox 360 won´t lead because of the HD DVD. Xbox is for the gamers and if it´s leading PS3, it´s because the gamers chose that. That "HD DVD add-on for Xbox 360 is the cheapest way to get HD" is old argument now. Gone, and soon forgotten.

I was just wondering that since HD DVD has better sales (with stand-alone players at least), why they don´t also lead in the software front then? I mean like I said with some other thread, I could buy that Toshiba-player, but software is another issue. Since I have more faith on Blu-ray, I would still buy everything (well, at least most) in Blu - even if I would have two formats.

 

[Cees Alons]

The EMA is on. Expect more press-releases.


Cees

 

[Paul Arnette]

All the more reason to try to reduce the clutter.

 

[Jim_K]

As long as the press releases are about frigging upcoming titles, I'm all for it. Otherwise wake me up after the PR noise calms down.