Has Tim Burton lost his creativity??

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  1. todd stone

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    With a mess called "planet of the apes" and the possibility of Remaking Willy Wonka, where has the creativity of Tim Burton gone??


    With such classics as Beetlejuice, Edward Scissorhands and Ed Wood etc why does this man feel the need to only do remakes nowadays??
     
  2. Max Leung

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    His creativity must be done by committee now. Or maybe he needs a new muse. Who knows?

    I'm betting it's because of pressure from the studio(s) he works with though.

    (George Lucas, on the other hand, has no such excuse...)
     
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    Maybe there's some truth to Fellini's belief that directors only have 10 years of creative work inside them and after that they repeat their work or borrow from elsewhere. [​IMG]

    I agree that it's a shame though, nothing since Sleepy Hollow has been 'Burton' if you will.
     
  4. Joshua_Y

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    In a word...yes...he has lost his creativity if you ask me...now I actually liked POTA...but frankly anyone could have directed that movie and it would have looked the same...Sleepy Hollow is another story...but I wish he would make something of his own...
     
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    I always felt Burton had good ideas but made them into lousy movies.

    Pee Wees Big Adventure [​IMG] [​IMG] 3/4
    Beetlejuice [​IMG] 1/2
    Batman [​IMG] 1/2
    Edward Scissorhands [​IMG]
    Batman Returns [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Nightmare Before Christmas [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] (Which he didnt direct)
    Ed Wood [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG] 1/2
    Mars Attacks! [​IMG]
    Sleepy Hollow [​IMG] [​IMG]
    Planet Of The Apes [​IMG]



    I think hes VERY OVERRATED as a director and doesnt translate a story to film very well at all.
     
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    I loved Edward Scissorhands, hated Batman Returns, loved Ed Wood, found Mars Attacks tedious, loved Sleepy Hollow, did not like Planet of the Apes. I'd say he's about due for one that I like. Is there a part for Johnny Depp in the Willy Wonka film? I'm not a big Depp fan, or anything, but he seems to involved with the better Burton films of the last several years. [​IMG]

    Regards,
     
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    Big Fish will probably be Burton's new creative film, don't give up on him yet!
     
  9. todd stone

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    You gave Edward Scissorhands only 1 star? Harsh..
     
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    Pee Wees Big Adventure [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Beetlejuice [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Batman [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Edward Scissorhands [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Batman Returns [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Ed Wood [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Mars Attacks! [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Sleepy Hollow [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG]
    Planet Of The Apes [​IMG]

    All reviews are out of four [​IMG]s.

    In my opinion, he's made one bad movie, and it was a stinker. Every other movie he's made has at least been watchable. Batman Returns would have gotten [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] out of me if it had only been about Catwoman; Danny DeVito's Penguin was just gross.
    He's not made anything since Planet Of The Apes, so unless you just didn't like Sleepy Hollow or Mars Attacks! (which I can understand if not agree with) it seems premature to say he's lost anything. Hopefully Big Fish will be good, and I have high hopes for Charlie And The Chocolate Factory.
     
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    Planet Of The Apes is my least favorite Burton film (it feels like a cash in) since it's the film that has the least amount of the Burton touch in it while his other films (along with Elfman's music) are full of his influence (which could explain why some dislike his work). He has had his ups and downs before but I expect Big Fish to be a return to form (and Wonka to be another sell out [​IMG]).
     
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  13. todd stone

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    what is BIG FISH about anyway? I see no Johnny Depp in it
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    I actually thought the fist one was pretty freaky as a kid. As for a remake, the author of the book wasn't happy with the first movie, so why not try making it again? I know Dahl is gone now, but I believe they still got permission from his family... I say give it a chance, and here's hoping that Burton still has it.
     
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    Maybe he'll do Wonka in the same style as James and the Giant Peach, which he produced with a very hands-on style. Both that and Nightmare Before Christmas I found fantastic.
     

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