Great Britons?! So they say

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  1. Grant B

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    So Boner, I mean Bono is from Ireland, thought that was not Part of GB???
    No Peter Sellers and John, Paul George but no Ringo?????
    No Cleese???? BOLLOCKS!

    Alfred the Great
    Andrews, Julie
    Attenborough, David
    Austen, Jane
    Babbage, Charles
    Baden Powell
    Bader, Douglas
    Beckham, David
    Bell, Alexander Graham
    Benn, Tony
    Berners Lee, Tim
    Bevan, Aneurin
    Blair, Tony
    Blake, William
    Bono
    Booth, William
    Boudicca
    Bowie, David
    Boy George
    Branson, Richard
    Bruce, Robert
    Brunel, Isambard Kingdom
    Burton, Richard
    Campbell, Donald
    Caxton, William
    Chaplin, Charlie
    Chaucer, Geoffrey
    Cheshire, Leonard
    Churchill, Winston
    Connelly, James
    Cook, Captain
    Crawford, Michael
    Cromwell, Oliver
    Crowley, Aleister
    Darwin, Charles
    Diana, Princess of Wales
    Dickens, Charles
    Drake, Francis
    Edward I
    Elgar, Edward
    Elizabeth I
    Faraday, Michael
    Fawkes, Guy
    Fleming, Alexander
    Geldof, Bob
    Glyndwr, Owain
    Harrison, George
    Harrison, John
    Hawking, Stephen
    Henry II
    Henry V
    Henry VIII
    Jenner, Edward
    King Arthur
    Lawrence, TE (L of Arabia)
    Lennon, John
    Livingstone, David
    Lloyd George, David
    Logie Baird, John
    Lydon, John
    Maxwell, James Clerk
    McCartney, Paul
    Mercury, Freddie
    Montgomery
    Moore, Bobby
    More, Thomas
    Morecambe, Eric
    Nelson, Horatio
    Newton, Isaac
    Nightingale, Florence
    Paine, Thomas
    Pankhurst, Emmeline
    Peel, John
    Powell, Enoch
    Queen Elizabeth II
    Queen Mother
    Queen Victoria
    Raleigh, Walter
    Redgrave, Steve
    Richard III
    Richard, Cliff
    Rowling, JK
    Scott, Captain
    Shackleton, Ernest
    Shakespeare, William
    Stephenson, George
    Stopes, Marie
    Thatcher, Margaret
    The Unknown Soldier
    Tindale/Tyndale, William
    Tolkien, JRR
    Turing, Alan
    Wallace, William
    Wallis, Barnes
    Watt, James
    Wellington, Duke of
    Wesley, John
    Whittle, Frank
    Wilberforce, William
    Williams, Robbie
     
  2. Julian Lalor

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    Look at the last name on that list. Probably a poll from Teen Beat. I just want to know where the Spice Girls and Ozzie are.
     
  3. Grant B

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    the ozzie kids will get it over dad
     
  4. Rob Gillespie

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    John Lydon, for godssake [​IMG]
     
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    I think Owen Glendwyr would be offended to be called part of Great Britain, since he wanted Wales to stay independent (why is he there, anyway? - he was a failure in his aims and got a lot of ordinary people killed). Ditto William Wallace (who was far less appealing and heroic in real life than as portrayed in the movie).

    Good grief, I'm taking this list seriously. Where's it from? At first glance, it's a list that a group of not very bright teenagers might have put together from their own prejudices and a very cursory reading of an encyclopaedia.
     
  6. Steve Christou

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    I can't believe I'm not on that list.[​IMG]
    But seriously where's the Monty Python team? No John Cleese? The Knights of ni?
    Laurence Olivier? Alec Guinness? Sean Connery? Michael Caine? Austin Powers??[​IMG]
     
  7. Keith Mickunas

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    Didn't Guy Fawkes try and blow up parliment? This is a strange list. Boy George? They're really proud of him?
     
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    [Mark Wahlberg voice]Where the fu*k is Ringo?[/Mark Wahlberg voice]
     
  9. Grant B

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    Lists like this generally suck, then again this one sucks more than normal

    Fawkes, Guy ????A belated we are sorry for religous intolerance and never mind we killed you for your botched bombing - now you are on 'top of the pops'

    Guess Gary Glitter got chopped off the list for those nagging kiddy porn charges
     
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  12. Grant B

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    I don't for a second believe Boy George belongs on the list, but give him a break. I was in the midwest when culture club's 1st came out.
    I loved it when very hetrosexual boys would say,'that chick isn't bad looking' . I would tell them to look closely, "that ain't no chick". Boy did they become quiet!
     
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    Where is the Minister of Silly Walks??

    Hmmm?

    Jon
     
  14. Bill Cowmeadow

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    Narrowing the list;
    My top ten:

    Boudicca
    Chaucer
    Churchill
    Darwin
    Dickens
    Elizabeth I
    Henry VIII
    Raleigh
    Shakespeare
    Watt

    I think the above members had more impact on our life today than all the rest.
    Any one else want to take a stab at the top ten?

    Bill
     
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    I narrowed it down to about 25 who had some effect (IMO) on the lives of the 'Engish Speaking Peoples' and to a lesser extent the entire world. I narrowed that down to a list of 10 who I think directly or indirectly have had an effect on everyone's lives:

    Churchill, Winston
    Cromwell, Oliver
    Darwin, Charles
    Faraday, Michael
    Fleming, Alexander
    Nelson, Horatio
    Newton, Isaac
    Shakespeare, William
    Turing, Alan
    Watt, James
     
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    I'm guessing you might find the homosexual population feel Boy George is a very important figure. I am certainly impressed at how much he's managed to keep in the media due to musical accomplishments. More power to him.
    The list is obviously nutsy, but such lists always are!! [​IMG]
     
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    Yeah, Paul, I know the house. There's tonnes of cool grafitti all over the walls. Always impressive to read, and not nearly as much homophobic stuff as I would have imagined, thankfully...
     
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    If I were a citizen of Great Britain I would sue for the inclusion of Bono on any list associated with my country.
     
  20. andrew markworthy

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    Is this the BBC's list of 100 most important Brits? If so, it illustrates the dumbing down of the Western mind perfectly. First, because of the mistaken nationalities (Bono is as has already been noted Irish, Alexander Graham Bell was American by the time he made his great discoveries). Second, because peripheral but well-known figures have been chosen instead of the true movers and shakers (e.g. Fleming - it was Ernst Chain who did the real work; Guy Fawkes - a peripheral figure in the plot). Third, because transitory figures from pop culture have been included on the whim of the moment (Lennon and McCartney arguably deserve a mention as a duo but Boy George and Robbie Williams? - give me a break!). The surest sign of a list thought up by middlebrow thought is the inclusion of current pop culture.

    Having way too much time on my hands, I took the list and first removed all those names which fall foul of the above criteria. Then I excluded people who were famous but who were famous just because they were in the right place at the right time. E.g. Queen Victoria could just as well have been any other person with a crown on their head - she didn't do much personally. This leaves the following who *by their own actions* fundamentally changed Britain and in many cases the world to a significant degree in one or more fields:

    Alfred the Great
    Babbage, Charles
    Baden Powell
    Bevan, Aneurin
    Brunel, Isambard Kingdom
    Caxton, William
    Chaplin, Charlie
    Chaucer, Geoffrey
    Churchill, Winston
    Cromwell, Oliver
    Darwin, Charles
    Dickens, Charles
    Elizabeth I
    Faraday, Michael
    Hawking, Stephen
    Henry VIII
    Jenner, Edward
    Lennon, John
    Maxwell, James Clerk
    McCartney, Paul
    Nelson, Horatio
    Newton, Isaac
    Nightingale, Florence
    Paine, Thomas
    Pankhurst, Emmeline
    Shakespeare, William
    Tindale/Tyndale, William
    Turing, Alan
    Wellington, Duke of
    Wesley, John
    Whittle, Frank
    Wilberforce, William

    There's a lot of people missing: John Maynard Keynes, Turner, Ernst Chain, Balfour, Warwick the Kingmaker, Huxley, Gibbon, etc, etc.
     

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