Genesis on SACD soon (1 Viewer)

[LanceJ]

About two weeks ago I emailed Rhino (I'm *assuming* this is who will release these for Warners) about the release date for the CD+dvd versions for the U.S. Don't hold your breath because almost every time I ask them something to do with surround music it takes them at least a month and usually longer to reply. I think they know who I am and are worried that I'll blab the info on forums like this, which is true!

 

[Aaron Silverman]

That's the European PAL version. It seems that the Japanese NTSC versions will be available for less than that.

I suppose now that I have 5.1 sound on my PC at home, I could just watch the region 3 DVDs on my computer. I'd really like those SACDs. . .

 

[Ron Reda]

Well, I pulled the trigger on ...And Then There Were Three, Abacab and Duke. Ugh, $120...

 

[LanceJ]

wow you're RICH!

I'm starting to wonder that the continuing lack of a release date for U.S. versions might mean Warner/Rhino is thinking of dvd-a versions instead.....O.K. I will admit that's being way too optimistic. But if they do, I hope they arrange the audio menu so ALL audio formats are listed i.e. MLP, Dolby, DTS, etc. That way people with players not yet set up correctly for hi-res (six analog outs) can hear something without thinking the disc is defective. DTS does this with many of their discs.

 

[andrew markworthy]

The only rational way of doing this if you're a completist is to get the box sets (of which zilch details of where they can bought, price, etc, as yet).

I shall be just slightly annoyed (Brit understatement) if I get the box sets and then discover there's a change of heart and the extras discs will be made available separately.

Incidentally, for all of my American cousins fainting over the prices - welcome to Britain. :frowning:

 

[Joe Valha]

Where? Why in the world are they making is so freaking difficult to get high res audio and region 1 DVDs???

 

[Ron Reda]

Music Direct

 

[Ron Reda]

Now they're saying these SACDs are on backorder... :frowning:

 

[LanceJ]

I am totally guessing here, but I wonder how many people are ordering these just so they can resell them on eBay? I've read of similar occurances with other limited-production items (music and non-music related).

 

[Joe Valha]

So I went to Music Direct and almost started pre-ordering. But then I realized I don't want to pay for SACD disks that come with PAL DVDs I can't play. I still don't get why this is so freaking difficult.

 

[PaulDA]

Unless your player is region free, you won't get any SACD/DVD-V combination that works in North America. The North American releases will have DVD-Vs that you can watch, but no SACD. You can complain to Warner's for not A) releasing the SACDs or B) for not releasing DVD-A versions. They are the reason North America is not slated for entirely compatible hi-res audio/DVD-V releases.

 

[CarlP]

Or...you could just buy a cheapie Oppo player for your secondary system. The plethora of features you get for only $200 makes it an incredible value. I'm impressed with it even with my main player being an Esoteric DV-50.

As for the backorder comment, the discs don't come out til April 2nd.

 

[Kevin C Brown]

There is one other way that a few of us enjoy.

I have a Pioneer 59AVi. NTSC player. But it does PAL passthrough (*not* PAL to NTSC conversion). I also have a professional Panasonic plasma. I didn't know this when I got it, but it does accept and display the PAL signal correctly. (With my last CRT TV, I could "watch" PAL discs from the Pio player, but the vertical rate was off. 50Hz vs 60Hz I think, right?)

I don't 100% understand why my combo works, but it does.

 

[PaulDA]

A very, very few.

I have no worries as my Cambridge Audio 540D is both region free right out of the box AND does a great PAL to NTSC conversion (it also does the reverse as well as pass each format natively--a handy feature for those who have projectors/displays that can do both formats), so I will get the European sets without hesitation. But 99.9% of players in people's homes in North America will not do what mine or yours does and they, without a gear upgrade, are out of luck if they want to avoid incompatible video/lack of hi-res/double-dipping for two sets of discs.

 

[TheLongshot]

At the worst, you can always use a PC with a DVD drive and playback software to watch the DVD. PCs don't care about NTSC or PAL.

Jason

 

[Danny Tse]

Pic of the first Genesis SACD boxset from sa-cd.net....



BTW, Elusive Disc now have individual Genesis SACDs w/ NTSC DVDs for $30.00/each.

 

[Aaron Silverman]

The Japanese releases must be region 0 if that's the case. Awesome!!!

Elusive also has a pack of the first 5 sets for $130. (They also sell the PAL sets for $40 each and the set for $180.)

Does anyone know whether these SACDs are hybrids?

 

[Phil Tomaskovic]

I emailed Elusive Disc to see if there was a box set version of these SACD & NTSC dvds they are selling. I included a link to the box set on Amazon.uk. They replied that they never heard of a box set, and thought it was mislabeled and was a cd set. I replied that severalplaces are selling it and it is indeed sacd. I also said that I thought there was no such thing as a SACD & NTSC dvd version available (that seemed to be the story here, right?)

So if they are selling SACD/NTSC single albums, could there be a box set with the extra discin this format too?

So is this a Japanese version if it's NTSC?

 

[LanceJ]

it sure was easier in the 80s when all you had to worry about was whether to buy the LP, cassette or one of those cee dee things........

 

[TheLongshot]

A friend of mine told me that Steve Hackett is selling them on his site, and that he will sign copies of the ones he was on. The price is comparable to Elusive Disc, so you wouldn't be paying that much more.

Jason