Friday the 13th by Quentin Tarantino (1 Viewer)

[Scott Temple]

John, I too, love Friday the 13th, Part VI: Jason Lives. I've always been a big defender of it. In fact, I think it's the last great Friday the 13th flick. A lot of people complain about the comedy, but it isn't overly comical. The locations they used were great. Gotta love that Covington, Georgia scenery. C.J. Graham was great as Jason; right up there with Richard Brooker (Part III) and Ted White (Part IV: The Final Chapter). Jennifer Cooke (Megan) is easily one of the prettiest women in the series. The closing shot was the best ending of any Friday the 13th movie; that close up of Jason's eye opening underwater with the creepy music playing on the soundtrack
. And how could any Friday the 13th fan not like Alice Cooper's "He's Back - (The Man Behind the Mask)" playing over the end credits?

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

Scott,
I also never understood it when people say that 'Ft13th VI' had too much humor in it!? That is precisley what made this entry in the series so different and refreshing, and, as you eluded to, it didn't get in the way of either the story or suspense one little bit.

Also, this one did something just unheard of in the Friday the 13th universe...it got us to care about the victims! What a concept! I liked all of the teens in the film and didn't want to see them come to harm. I was especially bummed out by Sissy's demise, that was just uncalled for on Jason's part!

Some will also complain that it had the usual 'teens have sex, teens die' cliche in it, but I disagree with that too. Sure, Cort went off and got laid, but he was a teenage boy hanging out with a bunch of kids on his summer vacation, it's plausable that he would call up one of his honies for some action, that's what I would have done.

Lastly, my favorite shot, at least from a cinematography stand point, in the whole film is when Tommy is being escorted to the city limits by sherriff Garris and he suddenly peels off and runs into the cemetary to lead them to Jason's grave. Once he's on foot and running through the cemetary, the camera is swooping down and moving all over the place! It's one of the finest shots in the entire series IMO.

Anyway, what's this about Quentin Tarentino and a remake of Friday the 13th!?

 

[Joe Karlosi]

All I can do is echo everything positive that has been said about FRIDAY 6 -- it's the best in the series, and the humor works well (and I generally hate humor with my horror). The characters you can care about, yes. Director Tom McLoughlin was a fan of the older horror films, and you can sense the care he put into the atmosphere and homages to the genre (his commentary on the DVD is excellent). F13 or not, it's just a fine horror film, period.

 

[Robert Ringwald]

Tarantino doesn't really "steal" anything. If anything he pays tribute.

 

[David Rogers]

I guess we've lost Tarintino officially now. Long delay, then we get Kill Bill which is a 70s splatterflick. Now he's doing an official horror splatterflick.

Where's the Tarintino who wrote Pulp Fiction with it's brilliant time shifting plot and interesting-as-hell characters? Where's the director who pulled Four Rooms together and gave us the cleverly remade Twilight Zone episode as the final part?

Gone, covered in kayro syrup I guess. :frowning:

 

[Shawn_KE]

Guess he's making the movies he wants to.

 

[David Rogers]

I guess some of us won't be watching the movies he wants to make then. The very essence of how it should work.

 

[Andy Sheets]

As I understand it, the only thing he's actually doing right now is the CSI season finale. Everything else is just rumor.

 

[Marvin Richardson]

Thank goodness he isn't only making the movies you want then. Kill Bill Vol. 1/2 was much better than any of previous efforts in my opinion.

 

[Garrett Lundy]

Love his work or hate it, Tarantino's work is among the most well polished, researched, and written films of all time. The man could probably make a used car commercial look good. Shyamalan's almost in the same boat., except you'd know the car was going to crash before the commercial even started.

 

[SarahG]

I would see this. I can't imagine what he would do with the film.

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

If all you took from the Kill Bill films was the blood-letting, you completely missed a whole pandora's box of intrigue and complexities.

The Tarantino who wrote Pulp Fiction is alive and well...and still kicking ass with his brilliant films.

As for the Shymalan comparison, he struck out in a major way with The Village IMO, what a let down that was. He's starting to become much too pseudo-intellectual for me, hopefully he'll rebound with his next film. Tarantino on the other hand hits home run after home run without fail.

 

[AJ Johnson]

I don't think Tarantino could do a better Friday movie than Part 6 and there's only so many times you can call something a "tribute" or "homage" before you start looking like a high end hack. It's time for Tarantino to come up with something original for a change.

It's nice to see some share my opinion that Friday Part 6 is the best of the series.

 

[Ruz-El]

I'm always surprised by how negatively people respond to Tarantino for being a hack, rip off artisit, un-original, etc.

Tarantino ahs never denied his influences, he just wears them more proudly on his shoulder than other film makers (Listen to a Scorsese commentary, adn he'll name numerouse movies that he pulls shots from, he'll he discuss movies he watched to prepare for filming!) There is a lot of talk about how anyone can do what Tarantino does, how it's easier to steal than create, but bottom line, IMHO, no one has or is making better "tribute pictures" than Tararntino has been. Don't beleive me? Watch one of the numerouse flicks that came out after pulp that promised to "Out Pulp Pilp Fiction" or some other half assed studio line. The Proof is in the pudding.

Tarantino is best described as a maverick film maker. He makes the films he wants to see. I wish more people would do the same.

 

[Joe Karlosi]

I couldn't agree more. I thought PULP FICTION was Tarantino's best work until I saw KILL BILL VOL. 1 and VOL. 2. I think the whole KILL BILL saga combined as one epic is a great film, and his masterpiece.

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

I've thought about this more, and if anything, I think Tarantino is more comparable to Kevin Smith, rather than M. Knight Shymalan.

Smith, for the types of films he makes, makes them extremely well and each have been increasingly more hilarious than the one before it. Even the underrated Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back.

 

[AJ Johnson]

I don't mind filmmakers being influenced by the technical side of filmmaking like transitions, camera angles, etc. What I can't stand is copying another movie scene frame for frame and passing it off as yours. For example...Bad Boys 2, the demolishing of the village scene near the end of the movie. Michael Bay lifted it right out of Jackie Chan's Police Story frame for frame as well as some shots from Ringo Lam and John Woo's movies during the gun battles. That kind of thing makes me sick. Some people call it an "homage". I call it pulling scenes out of other movies that the masses most likely will never see and making it yours. It's hack work. There's a very thin line between influence and plagiarism. Tarantino is no better than Michael Bay really. I think he's more telling of his influences now because of the heat he took with the City on Fire/Resevoir Dogs controversy.

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

AJ,
so what if Tarantino does re-create scenes from other little known films that the general public may not know about? Perhaps this will cause some to make an effort to seek out and discover these gems for themselves.

If this happens, who get's hurt? Nobody, and some people may discover a good film they may have never seen otherwise.

Calling Tarantino a plagarist is pure bullshit.

 

[AJ Johnson]

How is anyone going to discover that "gem" if the plagiarist doesn't even give any credit to his source in the first place? Yeah, Tarantino speaks of his sources now but did he ever credit City on Fire BEFORE someone finally noticed the similarities? I guess no one gets hurt but the original creator. I put myself in his shoes and I wouldn't like some person taking my work. However, who gets hurt is not really the thing here. It's the practice that I don't like. Tarantino isn't the first to do it and I'm sure he won't be the last. Most hacks are known as hacks and not praised for it. These guys can call themselves creators, filmmakers or whatever but they're really nothing more than cinema DJs re-mixing others' works. I can call Tarantino a plagiarist because that's what he does. What's the difference between re-creating and copying? There's no difference at all.

Re-create + no credit = plagiarist....it's as simple as that.

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

AJ,
we can tango all night until our fingers fall off about this and we still won't come to an agreement.

Let me just say that I don't agree with you on this one. The variables and senario's for why filmmaker's do things and make the choices that they do are so infinant, this forum doesn't have enough bandwidth to withstand all of them.