Firefly Cancelled--Officially.

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  1. Patrick Sun

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    Any chance that UPN would pick up Firefly as a midseason fill-in for the Tuesday 9 p.m. slot (or Wednesday after Enterprise)?
     
  2. Jeff Kleist

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    Unlikely, but I DO think they can make their intentions known to order it for next year early enough to hold people
     
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    Friday Night is the blackhole of television.
     
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    60 minutes has lasted just fine being delayed by football for years.
    Lat week was the key. Firefly got its lowest ratings yet, 2.4. Some say "but it was off the air for two weeks so people lost track:, yet John Doe was also off two weeks yet its fans found it when it returned and it held its ratings.
    Dark Angel got better ratings in the 8PM Friday slot then Firefly so the bottom line is the concept of Firefly just did not catch on even to the SF/Fantasy base that Dark Angel had.
    What would you do if you were a TV executive? Use your brains not your hearts..and yes, I will miss Firefly.
     
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    Someone mentioned at the toonzone forum that Joss is trying to find another network for the show and Fox is not opposing him. This could be old and futile news.
     
  6. Jeff Kleist

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    If you read the post above, you'll see it's new

     
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    Well, I was watching two shows regularly. Buffy was one and Firefly was the other one, and now one of them's cancelled. Oh well. That's how my tastes in tv go. Back to just one hour a week...
     
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    Ah well. That leaves 24, The Amazing Race, and Survivor.
    And two of them end next week. [​IMG]
    And El Clon ended last Tuesday. [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
    *sigh*
     
  10. Martin Rendall

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    So what's left to be seen? There's an ep. tonight, and I read a post suggesting that the pilot will be shown next week. Is that it?

    Thanks,
    Martin.
     
  11. Jeff Kleist

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    Gina rarely kicks high

    They've shown what, 9 episodes so far? Tonight is 10, unaired pilot should be 11 and 12 which leaves an additional 3, probably for March or April doldrums. Maybe even early summmer

    The REALLY bad news is that apprently there is a 39 minute version of the original pilot running around out there on the net with "not for broadcast" burned into it. I'd say it's an aborted attempt to make the pilot into a single episode, cutting out the "boring intellectual" parts. Hopefully this will NOT be what's airing next Friday (quick check of TVGuide.com shows a 2 hour Firefly block)

    Oh, and from the rumors, 24 Year 3 isn't looking so hot, so get ready for more sadness. The only good part is that I'll have a lot less TV to watch. With Buffy, Firefly, and maybe 24 and Angel gone, that means that there will be NOTHIGN to watch on broadcast TV except on Wednesday, and Sunday, and Enterprise is on REALLY shakey ground right now. Huzzah!
     
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    Angel's going off the air? Why? I thought it was doing well.

    No 24:3? they could totally switch people and do somebody else's day.

    Is it for sure that this is Buffy's last year?
     
  13. Jeff Kleist

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    It's 90% sure this is Buffy's last year

    Angel's ratings aren't so hot this year, one of the reasons it's being moved to Wednesday. I personally believe that we very well may get another season, but unless UPN is hot for it I don't see a season 6. 24's ratings went from a great 12-something for episode one down to the high 4s, it's doing OK, but I actually think DVD sales on S1 will factor into the series future (basically, is the show enough in the black to justify its continued existance)
     
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    Perhaps it would do better on Showtime or HBO, or one of those stations. Cinemax anyone? Does that show have any original shows. they appear to have done wonders for HBO recently with The Sopranos, SATS, SfU, and Showtime Queer As Folk.
    Perhaps it'll do better on one of those, or hopefully UPN will pick it up.
    This really makes me mad, this is a great show, and it's thankfully only the 2nd time a show I loved was canned (Popular being the other).
    Hopefully episode 15 will wrap things up nicely. [​IMG]
     
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    That 39 minute thing is just part one of the pilot, the big 80 minute file is seperated into two 39 minute segments.

    And, and John Doe DIDN'T hold its numbers after being off 2 weeks. it dropped from the low 4s to a 3.2. It actually dropped more points than Firefly.
     
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    Fox has cancelled Firefly but all hope is not lost. Joss Whedon has pledged his commitment to finding a new home for the show. One of the concerns many people have is that the show may be too costly per episode due to the special effects. What's most important to me and most of the Firefly fans is the story and the human interactions. Any network faced with the decision to pick up Firefly will have to consider costs. If Joss Whedon and the Mutant Enemy writers can devise ways to cut the special effects cost I believe they could finish out the rest of the season on another network and continue for more seasons. What do you think?
     
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    That's what I thought. I felt that they could reuse some of the special effects once in a while. It's the characters I'm interested in. I love them, and knowing that there's only about 5 more times I'll be seeing them really makes me feel bad.

    This is easily the best show I've seen in years. And compared with season 1 of Buffy, it's actually better. I wonder if it'd been able to evolve like Buffy if it would have been better. We'll never know.
     
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    While I will not get into a debate on the subject, I did want to address a few issues that were posted.

    First, I did indeed have a good source. :wink: While it could be taken either way by the ET article, that's something that's of opinion and I won't debate that one further. But others did suggest I didn't know what I was talking about without bothering to ask about any other sites or sources as well. In the end, the sources turned out correct.

    Second, people can read into words what is not actually written. From now on, it would be more useful to do so. No where in my posts did I state I took joy or "glee" in the fact this show was cancelled. What I said was:

     

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