Well said.vnisanian2001 said:What's on DVD is not Rhoda. It's "ODA".
Well said.vnisanian2001 said:What's on DVD is not Rhoda. It's "ODA".
It doesn't always work that way. Its entirely possible that Shout! was essentially "forced" to take and release Rhoda as part of a deal to get other Fox shows.Jack P said:So this is what Shout felt was worth putting out more than S2 of "The Bill Cosby Show" which we've been waiting more than two years for.
The instant Shout saw the condition of what was being furnished them, they should have told Fox to forget it. Instead they took boot level quality episodes and dressed them up in fancy packaging to con the unsuspecting into thinking they were getting an improvement over whatever boot stuff they might have gotten in the past.
I wonder if that's the case with BCI's "Mission: Magic" dvd release and some of the other Filmation library that BCI acquired. I was thinking about it the other day. I own it, but it's such an obscure, forgotten show that hasn't held up in my opinion--unlike the more popular "Isis".David Levine said:It doesn't always work that way. Its entirely possible that Shout! was essentially "forced" to take and release Rhoda as part of a deal to get other Fox shows.
I'm totally speculating, but its not an uncommon thing. We came across it at BCI and its pretty standard to have to license these types of "throw ins" when an independent wants to license some bigger shows from a major studio.
Honestly, we shouldn't have licensed most of the Filmation titles that we did. We would've been much better off with just He-Man, She-Ra and Isis.Ron Lee Green said:I wonder if that's the case with BCI's "Mission: Magic" dvd release and some of the other Filmation library that BCI acquired. I was thinking about it the other day. I own it, but it's such an obscure, forgotten show that hasn't held up in my opinion--unlike the more popular "Isis".
Heh. I'm glad I have all of them. They just weren't smart business decisions.Jack P said:Count me among those grateful for "Space Academy" in addition to "Isis"!
I'm not blaming Shout completely. While I can understand getting only poor quality masters from Fox, Shout was left with no alternative. What is starting to really bother me is all of the double talking that this realse is getting. First Shout states they are pleased with the release. Then they back peddle and start making excuses for why the set is not pleasing but a total disaster. We've heard on more than one occasion that these are the 'best surviving masters available.' Only to find out later, that yes, there are better quality masters out there and Shout could only work with what Fox gave them. So, which is it? Did Fox provide only the cheapest prints? Did Shout just take what they were given and didn't bother to try and get better? First Shout says one thing and then just the oposite.Powell&Pressburger said:Something tells me sales aren't going to be as bad as we expect. Some are on the ledge about to purchase or not to purchase. It is too bad the full episodes couldn't be located or handed over to Shout for the release. They are very aware of the issue.
I am going to support the release because Shout seemed to do the best they could with the release - I know some will say they should have done better, but we don't know the full story. It isn't as if they were sweeping it under the rug even the early review for the set from sitcom online stated there are warnings before episodes regarding the quality.
I will purchase season 1 because i can't watch them anywhere else currently, but also because I would like to see further seasons released in better form.
That's the kind of thing I'm talking about that has me just as upset as the general poor quality of the release.Jack P said:Shout did not level on the matter of cut/syndicated versions (we had to find this out from outside reviewers even as Shout had their representatives posting in public forums elsewhere who could have leveled with us in advance on this), and they still don't do so in their packaging.
If that happens, Shout will be in a world of hurt from Designing Women fans. Heaven help them.Powell&Pressburger said:I am still waiting for Designing Women ... I hope SONY didn't send them cut episodes for that.
Can they really? And I don't just mean the two titles that obviously come to mind, but I would point out that Shout! has of late started to take the "throw all these titles at the wall and see what sticks" approach that Universal did in 2005 and CBS/Paramount seemingly was doing in more recent years. If you really think that "Peyton Place" which would require in excess of 15 releases to get its whole run out is going to sustain that level of interest, or that we'll see all these other titles that have been sprung of late carried to completion any faster than a lot of other studios might have done so, I think that's more of a fairy tale than the notion that releasing one more season of "The Bill Cosby Show" is going to seemingly ruin the company financially.Powell&Pressburger said:Usually with shout they can finish up most TV show runs.
I hate Volume 1/2 season sets for sure liek Peyton is gonna be, Paramount has been doing that for a while with Mod Squad, Dynasty, Streets of San Fran. to name a few... and I think it is harder to sell the volume sets.Jack P said:Can they really? And I don't just mean the two titles that obviously come to mind, but I would point out that Shout! has of late started to take the "throw all these titles at the wall and see what sticks" approach that Universal did in 2005 and CBS/Paramount seemingly was doing in more recent years. If you really think that "Peyton Place" which would require in excess of 15 releases to get its whole run out is going to sustain that level of interest, or that we'll see all these other titles that have been sprung of late carried to completion any faster than a lot of other studios might have done so, I think that's more of a fairy tale than the notion that releasing one more season of "The Bill Cosby Show" is going to seemingly ruin the company financially.
They are the full episodes.Powell&Pressburger said:I am still waiting for Designing Women ... I hope SONY didn't send them cut episodes for that.
Jon, how do you know this? Your review for the set isn't even up yet.Jon Martin said:They are the full episodes.