Does this mean the content's avg or peak bitrate will be halved to accommodate the two streams?MPEG4-MVC compresses both left and right eye views with a typical 50% overhead compared to equivalent 2-D content
Unless they are playing with the math incorrectly, a 50% overhead implies a movie would take up 150% of the space it currently does, not 200% as if the two streams were encoded independently. So to fit a 3-D movie in the same space as a 2D encode, it would have to be 67%, not 50%. This implies for a movie only 50 Gig disc, up to the equivalent of 33 Gigs could be used for the 2D version minus audio tracks. I am assuming they are encoding both the left and right eye within a single stream to take advantage of the commonality between the two images so it is hard to exactly state how much is used for a single eye.Does this mean the content's avg or peak bitrate will be halved to accommodate the two streams?
Interesting - thanks for that clarification, Chuck.Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey
Unless they are playing with the math incorrectly, a 50% overhead implies a movie would take up 150% of the space it currently does, not 200% as if the two streams were encoded independently. So to fit a 3-D movie in the same space as a 2D encode, it would have to be 67%, not 50%. This implies for a movie only 50 Gig disc, up to the equivalent of 33 Gigs could be used for the 2D version minus audio tracks. I am assuming they are encoding both the left and right eye within a single stream to take advantage of the commonality between the two images so it is hard to exactly state how much is used for a single eye.
Hopefully no as 3D discs are (according to the new spec) backwards compatible with 2D players.Originally Posted by Yumbo
Will there be separate 2D only vs. 3D combo 2D editions?
Originally Posted by Chuck Anstey
Unless they are playing with the math incorrectly, a 50% overhead implies a movie would take up 150% of the space it currently does, not 200% as if the two streams were encoded independently. So to fit a 3-D movie in the same space as a 2D encode, it would have to be 67%, not 50%. This implies for a movie only 50 Gig disc, up to the equivalent of 33 Gigs could be used for the 2D version minus audio tracks. I am assuming they are encoding both the left and right eye within a single stream to take advantage of the commonality between the two images so it is hard to exactly state how much is used for a single eye.
Where did you get that "understanding"? I didn't see that mentioned in the 2 linked articles above (although I did see one mention of that possibility by one of the posters).Originally Posted by Craig_Ehr
And, re: on the PS3... My understanding is that the PS3 will only be able to handle 3D at half vertical resolution so you won't be getting full 1080P 3D, but still it's pretty impressive that it has the horsepower to be upgraded to 3D via firmware update. (That's okay for me anyhow because my 3D Samsung HLT6187S LED DLP display is only half-resolution too.)
Universal 3-D titles Taza Son of Cochise and Jaws were recently released in 3-D on DVD in the Sensio 3-D format. Other Universal titles Creature From The Black Lagoon, It Came From Outer Space and Revenge of The Creature are listed as "Coming Soon" on Sensio's web site http://www.sensio.tv/en/home_theater/3d_dvd/soon/default.3d . I would think all studios will be releasing there 3-D titles from the 1950's and current 3-D movies with this new 3-D format on Blu-ray.Originally Posted by dana martin
reading this for the more current films is ok, but i am wondering how they are going to work around the older titles that were shot stereoscopic,and in other formats. i am thinking mostly eary 50's movies,the golden age this would be a good reason to see what kind of material is ready to be presented this way, as the announcment states that possibly 2nd Qtr of next year the players could be on the market.
this also for a classic film lovers point of view could work out well, john wayne in HONDO 3D, tis has the posibility of affecting a lot of films that would never have gotten attention, and i have fingers crossed that somone at universal goes wait wasnt creature from the black lagoon in 3D, and then trys to do it right, before the remake it
With a PS3 and the current 3-D TV's you will probably be getting 540p or 540i for each eye. I have seen 3-D demo's with these TV's and the 3-D is excellent. With a new 3-D Blu-ray player and new specific 3-D TV's in 2010 (whenever they come out) you would have 1080p for each eye.Originally Posted by Man-Fai Wong
Where did you get that "understanding"? I didn't see that mentioned in the 2 linked articles above (although I did see one mention of that possibility by one of the posters).
I too have a PS3 and a (more recent) 61" Samsung LED DLP that should be capable of 1/2-res 3D. Would be nice to have that option w/out springing for another new display so soon.
But I too am quite concerned that 2D playback would not be compromised *both* in terms of PQ/AQ *and* the overall playback experience -- BD-J/BD-Live clunkiness anyone?
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Optoma Announces the 3D Ready HD66 ProjectorOriginally Posted by Jesse Skeen
Tell me when the equipment will be out for sale and what its price will be, before I go buy a new TV soon!