DVD18 or 2 disc Sets

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  1. Robert Hutchison

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    As my DVD collection grows and takes up more shelf space, I start to look at the multiple disc boxed sets that I have (Brazil, Toy Story, Fantasia, Cleopatra, etc.) and wonder why more of these are not released in DVD18 so that that box takes up less of a footprint. Does the manufacturing of a DVD18 cost more than 2 DVD9's? Do the disc manufacturers feel that the public thinks that they are getting more with two discs rather than just one? In terms of convenience, I don't see anymore work in flipping a disc as opposed to changing to a second disc. I'd like my DVD boxes to take up as little shelf space as possible and still be in a sturdy case. I'm glad to see that Terminator has been announced to be released on a DVD14.
     
  2. Justin Lane

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    It seems like people like to have art work on their discs (Disney was right about that feature), and also think DVD-18 will be scratched or damaged easier, thus the preference for 2 disc sets.
    Also I think from a studio standpoint, they are apt to sell more two disc sets at a higher price then trying to justify the increased price for only one DVD-18 of an SE edition. We know the differences between the various storage amounts found on a DVD, but most of the DVD buying public has no idea what a DVD-18 is, and may shy away from a higher price for only one disc.
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  3. Jeff Kleist

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    In answer to your questions
    1-Yes, DVD-18 is more expensive. The bad-disk rate is about double that of running 2 DVD-9s at the factory
    2-Yes, people feel like they're getting more with 2 discs, which they are, because they get snazzy artwork on the discs which also protects them better
    3-Given the slimline Amaray double case, you shouldn't be complaining about footprint anymore. Frankly, just buy some more shelves.
     
  4. Kyle McKnight

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    For 2 disc sets, I would prefer they use the cases like Cast Away, that are the same size as 1 disc movies.
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  5. Jeff Ulmer

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    I prefer both dual discs and the thicker cases. For long programs, such as TV series, DVD-18 could be okay, but for films, I prefer two discs.
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  6. David Lambert

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    While I only have a 1-disc-at-a-time DVD player, the DVD-18 discs are truly annoying to my friends who have carousel players. It's easier for them to load up 2 discs and let it play through than to have to switch it. Make sense to me; that's why they bought the carousel in the first place!
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  7. LukeB

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    The statistics show that Double Alpha cases are SOOOOOOOOO much better. Just kidding about the statistics....but it's true they're much better. [​IMG]
     
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    I really don't care about the difference.
    I have 3 DVD-18's (Ben-Hur, Terminator 2: UE, and Superman) and 4 DVD-10's (Blazing Saddles, Air America, MST3K: The Brain That Wouldn't Die, and Amadeus.)
    I have 4 two/three disc sets (Lawrence of Arabia, Walking With Dinosaurs, The Abyss: SE, Fantasia Anthology, and Big Trouble In Little China).
    I probably would like the multi-disc sets better if I were to get a multi-disc DVD player. Lucky for me, Ben-Hur's flip point is at the intermission, Superman has the movie entirely on one side, T-2 also, and the other DVD-10's except for Amadeus are 2-format discs which suits me fine.
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  9. David Lambert

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    Wow. I freaked out when you said that Blazing Saddles was a DVD-10. I said to myself, "THAT's not a flipper!" It IS, of course, a DVD-10, as are all discs with OAR on one side and MAR on the other side. It's just that I've associated DVD-10's with "flippers" that contain different parts of the feature on each side, like Pelican Brief, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Sleepers, A Time to Kill, and V: The Original Miniseries.
    Oh, and I plum forgot that Ben Hur is a DVD-18. I'll have to go edit a post elsewhere... [​IMG]
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  10. Keith_R

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    Just my .02 cents. I prefer 2 discs more than DVD-18s. I own a 2 disc changer but that is not the reason I like 2 discs more. I like 2 discs more because I notice less wear and tear on a disc than I do with DVD-18. I have manual dexterity problems which make it harder for me to handle a DVD-18. I guess the disc art also plays a role to [​IMG]
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    I know I'm in the minority
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    I LOVE DVD-18s. I would much prefer them to 2 DVD-9s.
    I also hate the slimline double alphas (Cast-Away) They seem much cheaper than the regular double alpha style cases, with the little flappy disc holder - no thanks!
    I think the only valid point preferring the 2 9s is if you have a caurosel player, and those should be set up to play both sides anyway!
    Some of the solutions that they have come up with havent been that great either - Cleopatra for one, That paper sleeve was not good - and JFK has to be the worst one yet. That should have been a DVD-14.
    I think that the DVD-14/18 is the best way to go (one good thing about IAMMMMW)
    but thats just me.
    honestly I hate the slimline double cases as much as Snappers! thats more of an issue for me than 2x9 vs 18
     
  13. Jesse Skeen

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    The "artwork" on the Criterion Brazil discs isn't that big a deal; I would've rather have that be a 2-disc set with one 2-sided disc than 3 1-sided discs. I've already decided I don't like the artwork on the Phantom Menace DVDs either, I will probably paint over it in black or take it all off with rubbing alcohol. I was also offended that Tommy Lee Jones' picture was on the movie disc of "Men in Black" while Will Smith was relegated to the extras disc- Will Smith is the real star of this movie.
    Yes, I'm being a bit sarcastic here, but I LIKE DVD-18's!
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    Depends on the case. If they insists on using a slim double alpha, than I would rather them have a DVD-18. When they use the thicker cases which actually keep the discs in place, then I prefer two-discs.
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    Jesse, what do you mean about MIB? I thought all versions were identical. I've seen both R2. The standard has one disc and I'm pretty sure it has both Smith and Jones on the disc label.
    The silver edition had a DVD-18 (no image there) and an extra disc, which I certainly don't remember having only one of the two main actors on the label.
    As for removing the SW label with alcohol... You're never going to see it when its playing or in its case!
    Personally I am a DVD-9 all the way sort of person. Double sets are good.
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    Nice read Tony, thanks. Why am i not shocked that Universal has a "No Comment" when asked about DVD-18. Just remembered, i need to look and see what Universal told Gord, if anything. And Best Buy not aware of a problem? I doubt they look at the returns to see how many are DVD-18s.
     
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    I won't buy any Dual sided discs anymore. They end up getting scratched easier, It is hard to tell which way is up, and then you have a 50% chance that it wont play corretly or it will skip.

    Besides, most of my 2 disc collectors editions cases are the same size as the single disc ones. It wouldnt really give me any more room.
     

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