DSOTM - was it remixed in stereo for SACD?

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  1. Philip Hamm

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    I thought it was not, and there's no mention of a remix in the liner notes. So what's the deal, was it remixed in stereo? Links would be appreciated. I searched here but there's so much on Dark Side that I couldn't get through it all.
     
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    It's the original mix, Philip, and sounds better than my MFSL gold and superior by several orders of magnitude to the hideous "20th Anniversary Edition" (this latter disc also done by Guthrie/Sax... go figure).
     
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    Any comments in terms of how the stereo mix stacks up against the original Harvest CD mix? Maybe I remember even Lee saying that the new disc was an improvement here as well?
     
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    The mix would be exactly the same since the same stereo master tape was used in all cases.

    It's the mastering that would be different causing differences in the "sound" of the tape - including whatever eq tweaking, tape console alignment differences, or the transport chain used in digital transfering for CD - that would account for sonic differences in the final product.

    So far, I'm still finding my MFSL sounds fuller and warmer than the SACD redbook layer. Not having an SACD player keeps me from comparing the stereo DSD version, though [​IMG] .

    Joel
     
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    Has anyone listned to DSOTM in 5.1 yet? If so how does it sound? I am contimplating budgeting for a 5.1 SACD player. Would love to know how the multi channel mix sounds. My Sony DVP-S9000 ES dvd/sacd is two channel sacd only.
     
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    Joel, the mix is not the same on DSOTM 30th Anniversary's surround tracks. Guthrie got all the original elements of the album and remixed them from point one. Part of the reason of DSOTM's stunning high fidelity is because the original album was made out of 3rd and 4th generation copies - the band took the multichannel tracks, mixed them on a second recorder to one of the tracks, and kept on working (in order to have more tracks available to them). Guthrie said that, by finding the original sound elements and carefully remixing them digitally, he was able to extract far more musical information than the original album ever had.

    I agree with him.
     
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    Javier, Philip's question wasn't about the 5.1 surround mix, but the 2-channel stereo mix. And that is the same.

    Joel
     
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  9. Philip Hamm

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    Well, so far I don't think I've gotten a definitive answer.

    Did the stereo mix from DSOTM come from Parsons' original stereo master or was the stereo remixed? Source web sites please?

    I AM NOT DISCUSSING THE MULTICHANNEL MIX AT ALL IN THIS THREAD

    Also I don't care which sounds better and that discussion is hijacking this thread!!!
     
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    Phillip, like I said in Post #2, it's the original stereo mix.

    I understand you didn't ask whether I think it sounds better than the 20th Anniversary edition (ugh) or the MFSL (my previous reference), but many CD-only folks might wonder whether it's worth it to upgrade, etc. I really don't consider that too far outside the topic of this thread.
     
  12. Philip Hamm

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    Any links?

    I just read through all the Dark Side news that I could find at High Fidelity Review and AudioRevolution and found nothing about the source of the stereo mox for anything but the vinyl re-release.
     
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    Links to what?
     
  14. Philip Hamm

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    Links to sites where it is authoritatively documented that the stereo mix on the re-release is not a remix.
     
  15. Rich Malloy

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    What am I, google? Check the usual sources!
     
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    [​IMG] Thanks.

    I was hoping someone here who had recently been doing some research on the subjet would have some links. I guess not. [​IMG] Off to google....... Do you know how much comes back when you select "Dark Side Of The Moon", "SACD", "Remix", etc in google?
     
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    Well, geez, if you're gonna make me feel that bad I guess I will be your personal google-boy. I tried to search this forum for you, but of course the search function is "temporarily" disabled, so I went over to the Hoffman forums and these comments from James Guthrie (via ICE website) came up first:

    http://www.stevehoffman.tv/forums/sh...ice#post205221

     
  18. Philip Hamm

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    thanks!
     
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