DRM: "I can't let you do that, Dave"...

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  1. Sam Posten

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    A master class on why this won't last:
    http://fora.tv/2012/07/31/Cory_Doctorow_Coming_War_Against_Your_Computer_Freedom
     
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    Looking forward to watching the complete video. Something Sam didn't mention is that it's 93 minutes long, so plan ahead.
     
  3. Sam Posten

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    It takes a while to get going, he rambles a bit....
     
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    A better write up on it without having to watch 2 hours:
    http://boingboing.net/2012/08/23/civilwar.html
     
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    I love the title of this thread...
     
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    =) Glad you like it.
    DRM also causes estate planning hassles:
    http://articles.marketwatch.com/2012-08-23/finance/33336852_1_digital-content-digital-files-apple-and-amazon
    Anything you BUY you can give to your heirs. Anything that is DRMed or licensed you cannot.
    And most of us keep all this crap in one (or a couple) big ole mixing bowls with DRMed and non DRMed stuff all piled in.
    Good luck sorting out what you can pass on and what you cannot.
     
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    Good thing The Beatles wasn't DRM...
     
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    I never thought about that aspect. Good thing I've stayed with buying and ripping.
     
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    Well then that's one advantage UV has over iTunes. You can share your movies with anyone you wish, up to 6 people, on 12 devices.
     
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    "Sharing with" and "giving ownership to" are not the same thing.
    And it's not "anyone I wish" if I know more than six people.
     
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    Last weekend, I "bought" an episode of Big Bang Theory on amazon because I had missed it and really wanted to see it. Talk about an exercise in frustration. I had to download special software, then although I could play it on Windows Media Player, it turns out you have to have internet because every time you play it, the player has to acquire the DRM rights, no internet, no play. So then I wanted to show it to someone else in the living room on the TV, and never got that to work; I probably could have ultimately, but I got too ticked off to proceed. I surely don't feel that I "own" it the way I would if I had the DVD. My first such purchase and my last.
     
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    You can only share a disc with one person, unless you make copies of it, and that's illegal. So UV once again, is less restrictive than the old way of doing it.
     
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    So I can share a disc with someone, and then when I get it back from them, share it with someone else. And then do that as many times as I want, forever.
    I don't even understand what you're trying to argue anymore.
     
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    Insanity:
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/08/why-johnny-cant-stream-how-video-copyright-went-insane/
     
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    Is The Sun as disreputable as the Enquirer?
    http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/4517317/Bruce-Willis-to-fight-Apple-over-music-rights-after-his-death.html
     
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    A /facepalm of epic proportions:
    http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/4/3290746/ustream-vobile-hugo-awards-takedown
     
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    Guys I do not own anything Apple so I do not know first hand and only go by what I read , but didn't Apple removed all DRM restrictions from their music downloads back in 2009?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/07/technology/companies/07apple.html?_r=1
    "And with the copying restrictions removed, people will be able to freely shift the songs they buy on iTunes among computers, phones and other digital devices."
    or perhaps Bruce doesn't want to upgrade his library?
    "Apple said customers would be able to pay a one-time fee to strip copying restrictions from music they have already bought on iTunes, at 30 cents a song or 30 percent of the album price"
     
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    That was my understanding, yeah. If you paid extra for "iTunes Plus" or whatever it's called, it's DRM free.
     
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    Right, anything you bough before that requires a 30 cent a song tithe to Apple to unlock. Last time I looked it woild cost me $800 to unlock the rest of mine legally.
     

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