Dream Theater - Train of Thought

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  1. Tony_Woods

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    Just picked up the newest release from Dream Theater this morning and I must say, it is awesome! All you rock, metal, and prog fans should check it out.
     
  2. Paul E. Fox II

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    I'll have in my hot hands tomorrow...I can't wait for the ride (65 minutes from work) home now[​IMG][​IMG]!
     
  3. Kyle McKnight

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    Has anyone else had problems ripping this disc to their music archive? I can't even access the PC content, it just sits in the CD drive and spins/spins/spins, wont stop, wont eject etc...end up having to reboot the computer. I tried it on another PC and had the same problem.

    It plays fine in my home/car stereo, I just can't listen to it/access content/rip it on my computer.
     
  4. John_Bonner

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    Worked ok for me using CDex.
     
  5. Mike Broadman

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    No problems using MusicMatch
     
  6. Kyle McKnight

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    Maybe I just have a bad disc? I can't do anything with the CD when I put it in the drive. Thanks for the feedback guys.
     
  7. ScottH

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    It's still early, but I think Train Of Thought is easily Dream Theater's worst release to date. Way too Metallica/Iron Maiden-ish for me. 'In The Name Of God' is the only track I like.
     
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    Just picked it up last week and on first listen I think it is amazing.

    Have not been a fan since Images and Words as they went off into too much of a progressive tangent for my tastes but this one really smokes.

    And the lyrical content is really something else .. some of the stuff really hits home.

    A very "honest" release!
     
  9. Steve Crowley

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    I've had this for awhile and it is a different area they are going into. Totally different from their previous 2 outings. Just go to there shows and see what they can do live. The last 4 I have seen have been fantastic. Can't really complain as this is what I like and look forward to seeing them again. Too bad Liquid Tension Experiment won't be touring anymore. Those 2 discs are probably their best musically. Cheers.
     
  10. Brian L

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    I have NEVER heard Dream theater before 5 minutes ago, when XM Radio played "As I Am".

    Kind of a rip of the main riff in Black Sabbath (the self-titled track), but way heavier than I would have guessed, given that every mention I have ever seen of DT is that they are a prog rock band.

    So, is the rest of it at all like "As I Am"? If so, I may track it down for a purchase.

    How about the sonics? Hard to tell from XM Radio, and I have been burned way too may times lately be new stuff that musically is good, but sonically is dog squeeze.

    BGL
     
  11. Aurel Savin

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  12. John Styrnol

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    Just picked it up yesterday.

    John
     
  13. Brian L

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    OK, I went on this morning and bought it based on hearing half of "As I Am".

    WHAT A KILLER DISC!

    I can't compare this to anything else DT has done, since I have not heard any other DT, but taken in the context of other new music out there, this is a fabulous CD.

    The sonics are quite good, with plenty of low bass, double bass kick drum, and the highs, cymbals in particular sound smooth. Quite a contrast to my last few new CDs (Jet, Ryan Adams, for example, which sound like sh*t compared to this).

    As for the music, there are so many different styles blended in here that its hard to describe it, but I will try...

    I am hearing elements of speed metal, shredding, traditional keyboard oriented prog rock (the last cut in particular, In the Name of God), metal, hard rock...the list goes on.

    There are little snippets here and there that bring to mind Sabbath, Queensryche, Dokken, Malmsteen, and yes, perhaps Iron Madden. Lots of tuned down guitars, and lots of blistering guitar work.

    This is without a doubt the best CD I have purchased in quite some time.

    And, for those with 5.1 systems, a small tip. I played this with my NAD 762's EARS surround mode engaged. Wonderful! There is quite a lot of thick, ambient textures on this disc, which lends itself to Pro Logic II, NEO:6, and my NAD's EARS mode.

    The soundstage stays firmly anchored up front, but is brought forward into the room in a subtle, but satisfying way.

    Side note to Aurel: Wankery???? Musical Masturbations???Gotta love the imagery there! Based on your suggestion, I am now going to check out some samples from Images and Words.

    BGL
     
  14. John_Bonner

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    Brian,

    I suggest you buy "Images and Words" and "Metropolis 2: Scenes from a Memory" today, sight unseen. You won't be sorry. They are both that good.
     
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    I would recommend "Awake" to be your next purchase. IMO it is by far their pinnacle.
     
  16. Brian L

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  17. Peter Mazur

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    Brian,

    For my taste ever since they started producing themselves the soloing has become too over-the-top. If that is more your speed than you will enjoy "Metropolis 2". "Awake", I feel, contains the perfect balance of being heavy and melodic at the same time.
     
  18. Jim_C

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    Brian,

    I'd have to say that you should pick up Images and Words and Scenes from a Memory if Train of Thought is your 'cup of tea'. Awake is excellent but it sounds nothing like ToT.

    I'd also recommend Change of Seasons. It's got one original track and some covers. You want it for the original track 'Change of Seasons'. 23 minutes long and IMO one of the best songs they've ever created.
     
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    Brian,

    I envy you. You are about to hear one of the best bands of the last decade.

    One thing to keep in mind...many of the songs will take four or five listens to really appreciate. There's so much going on musically that it takes time for your brain to absorb it all.

    Let us know what you think.
     
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