Most of us have an opinion of what might be "best". For myself, I'd prefer a moderate to large amp connected to any mid-priced receiver over any monolithic receiver such as the Denon 5805. These mega- money devices serve a purpose to those who are content to buy and use as is. I also have a somewhat simular view of the expensive seperates solution although haven't ruled out this eventuality. For Denon fans, a 38/4805 would be the processor that I'd mate with a very nice amp and have the feeling that my little set-up would outperform any big flagship receiver of any brand. You can call this a state of mind or peace of mind but this is what an outboard amp gives me. Weather my opinion has any merit or not, I'll never know. But I do know what I like.