Dawson's Creek Season 2 announced (and music replaced!)

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  1. Christian Preischl

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    Hi,

    just saw this over at DVD Times:

     
  2. Brian Gaddis

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    Damn, four discs?
     
  3. Robert Ringwald

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    That's a very bad idea. We're looking at

    Disc 1 - 6 episodes 2.01 - 2.06
    Disc 2 - 6 episodes 2.07 - 2.12
    Disc 3 - 5 episodes 2.13 - 2.17
    Disc 4 - 7 episodes 2.18 - 2.22

    Very bad move...

    Hopefully they'll do DVD-18 and spread the episodes out more evenly, that's just too much per disc...
     
  4. Craig: Mclaren

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    i'm sure a soundtrack full of village People songs will be very entertaining. [​IMG]

    Is it really that expensive to licence music? I heard 10 g's a song on average? Aren't the companies starting to take the piss now? This show is pretty popular. It would sell. Whats the problem?
     
  5. Robert Ringwald

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    That's a lot of money in the longrun. We're talking at least 7-10 songs an episode.
     
  6. Christian Preischl

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    Obviously I'm not happy with music changes, but right now I just hope that the "brand new" only refers to the fact that music has been replaced (which is bad enough) and not to the songs themselves, because I'm gonna be majorly pissed off if I'm watching a 1998/99 show with 2002/3 music!

    Chris
     
  7. Dan Rudolph

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    I hope they at least licensed the music heavily associated with the show. (ie everything that made it onto the soundrack album)
     
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    6 episodes on a disc? That works out to an average video bitrate of about 3.5Mbit/sec. Not too good by todays standards. I'm thinking it is DVD-18.
     
  9. Rob Cooper

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    I was looking forward to this announcement but now I'm really annoyed. I'd rather pay a bit more and have better picture quality and the original music.

    I had hoped that season one would sell well enough to justify more discs for future sets but it hasn't happened.
     
  10. Dan Rudolph

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    Dawson's Creek season 2 was 22 episodes. If they're using DVD-18s, wouldn't everything fit onto 3 discs?
     
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    I bought season 1 because from what i can tell , all the music that was played then is intact.If there going to be replacing music for season 2 no sale.Ill wait for reviews, if they only replaced a few songs ill still get it, but if they replaced a great deal of them forget it.
     
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    Not sure what "brand new music..." means, but I'm glad this show is at least being released. My friend lent me Season 1, and I had never watched the show, but I really enjoyed it. I didn't realize it was so funny, I thought it was just all drama.

    At least the producers are involved (supposedly), instead of just the suits picking the cheapest music available. Probably have even more Canadian female artists, if that's possible. [​IMG]
     
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    If there are no original songs, forget it. It's on twice a day on TBS... Tivo or record the eps. to a blank DVD or S-VHS... At least you'll have it the real ORIGINAL way...

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    I think it is rather cheap of Columbia to change the music on us. While above all I am just happy that the series is being released on DVD, I can't help but feel a large part of it has been changed. For me, these teenage films are all rooted in nostalgia. You watch to be taken back to a time of youth innocence, and that sense of the past is removed when new music is added instead.

    I can't really say I am surprised though...the first season has several changed music queues. The pilot had music from Alanis Morissette, and some other smaller bands that was changed for DVD. The changes however, were with similar music from the time (some better, some worse). As long as they include music from the 1998 scene on second season, I guess I won't complain too much. I've never seen the second season, so at least my mind isn't spoiled with any preconcieved expectations.

    Anyway, I just picked up the second season, and plan to watch it sometime over the holidays. All the discs have a nice little animated menu with some nostalgic instrumentals, which is a nice change over the previous release. Anyone else pick this up?
     
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    I need to write up my review of the set today or tomorrow.

    I'm really, really bad with knowing songs and bands that sing them, so unfortunately I'm not much help when it comes to noticing any music changes. I was more bothered by the compression on the set, and the fact that they squeezed 6 episodes onto 2 discs. There's a reason every other company has 22 episode seasons on 6 discs; anything less than that and you're looking for trouble. Honestly, I thought the show looked better when I watched it on digital cable.

    Gord
     
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    This is the last season of Dawson's Creek that I will ever get on DVD. Although that I feel season one is a full rounded finished story, I will get season 2 because it is still Kevin Williamson’s show and has his stamp all over it. (it's his last season)

    I also hated Season 2’s finale. Instead of an arc(season one), season 2 feels like a sinusoidal graph! Victim of the first season’s success. They should have kept it as a mini series.
     
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    I'm stopping at season 3 because there are still a few good episodes, and it ends mostly wrapped up...sort of. [​IMG]
     
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    You Pacey lover! [​IMG]
     
  19. Robert Ringwald

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    Ha! [​IMG]

    Actually, I think she was better with him compared to Dawson...but neither was right.

    I just like that by the end of the season there's some closure, season 2 ends on a kind of cliffhanger that I wouldn't want my DVD sets to end with. (season 3 was also from when I was in 8th grade, so there's some nostalgia value there...)
     
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    I think this is one of the very worst picture quality DVDs ever to have been released. I'm watching this on a 65" Widescreen HDTV (not zoomed in) and it looks absolutely horrifying. It's WAY too compressed, and I agree with the poster above that said it looked better when it was being broadcast on TV.

    At first, I thought it was just the 1st DVD (maybe I had gotten a defective disc) but when I finished all 4 of the DVDs I realized it was all of them. They weren't defective, just badly compressed.
     

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