Joe Lugoff
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Speak for yourself.Tino said:Dear CriterionTake your timeGet it rightWe can waitThank you
Hurry up.
I'm not getting any younger.
I can't wait.
Speak for yourself.Tino said:Dear CriterionTake your timeGet it rightWe can waitThank you
I love Mad World, but the first half of Cleopatra is easily a better film.Joe Lugoff said:Earlier in 1963, CLEOPATRA was cut even more than MAD WORLD, but it wasn't thrown in the waste can (although it probably should have been.)
Criterion always announces 3 months ahead of release. There is no other way they do things, so once this is announced there will be 3 months until release.cineMANIAC said:Were people actually expecting Criterion to release MAD WORLD this year? I wouldn't hold my breath, in fact, I don't expect to see this for quite some time if they're really working on an all-encompassing box set. Once this sludges out of the rumor stage and a formal announcement is made, it's entirely possible a year or more will transpire before we see the final product. Just being realistic here.
Not that it matters, because it's all just opinion, but I don't agree. I don't believe for one second that Elizabeth Taylor is Cleopatra. She's terrible in that movie. And as cartoonish as some of them are, I somehow believe in all of the characters in MAD WORLD.Moe Dickstein said:I love Mad World, but the first half of Cleopatra is easily a better film.
If this was a studio, I'd agree with you but Criterion doesn't always operate that way. They've put out Hitchcock movies (which I have to imagine are fairly good sellers for them) in the summer & winter, The Devil's Backbone (a title popular enough that they moved up the release so it would be available during the Barnes And Noble sale) came out this summer and On The Waterfront came out last winter.Carl LaFong said:I work in the licensing business -- in the consumer products end, which includes home video. (I won't reveal the name of the major studio I work for, but its initials begin with a "Big W.") I've been here for 15 years, so I'm no novice at DVD marketing strategies.
At this point, Criterion has already blown both the official 50th Anniversary AND Christmas 2013. With all due respect to everyone who has stated otherwise, do NOT hold your breath for a January/February announcement. From a marketing perspective, there's no practical reason for them to hurry up the release at this point. That would be like bolting the proverbial barn door after the horse has flown. Save your shekels for Christmas 2014. That would be my earliest guess, strictly from a business standpoint. As cineMANIAC said: just being realistic here.
I have literally zero inside knowledge of Criterion but I cited previous examples of Criterion having released bigger titles outside of the fall. Besides unrelenting pessimism, I see no reason to think that Criterion will do what the studios do and only release key catalog titles around the holidays. Even when you look at their fall lineup this year, there's not many examples of big or expensive titles (the $200 Zatoichi set being an exception) compared to earlier in the year.Joe Lugoff said:Do any of you really know what you're talking about? Be honest now.
Carl LaFong said:I work in the licensing business -- in the consumer products end, which includes home video. (I won't reveal the name of the major studio I work for, but its initials begin with a "Big W.") I've been here for 15 years, so I'm no novice at DVD marketing strategies.
At this point, Criterion has already blown both the official 50th Anniversary AND Christmas 2013. With all due respect to everyone who has stated otherwise, do NOT hold your breath for a January/February announcement. From a marketing perspective, there's no practical reason for them to hurry up the release at this point. That would be like bolting the proverbial barn door after the horse has flown. Save your shekels for Christmas 2014. That would be my earliest guess, strictly from a business standpoint. As cineMANIAC said: just being realistic here.
Came across this site listing and showing all movie posters that Saul Bass designed.darkrock17 said:This was discussed earlier in this thread, Saul Bass did create those two posters.
Now I'm really excited for this release, especially knowing how much work and care is going into it. Criterion can take all the time they want, it'll be worth the wait for me.Ronald Epstein said:This project started as one thing, and as more people became involved, it turned
into something much larger than imagined. Last I have been made aware, all delays
at this point are due to the fact that there is a huge realization that the utmost care
must be given to making this film look as good as it can and to clear as much
licensing as possible for included extra feature content.
Do any insiders know Criterion's marketing deal with its customers? For the big boys, the profit split between Producer/Merchant was 100%/0% for the first two weeks of initial release. Then the Merchant's percent grows over time. At least, that was the way things worked back a few years ago.Carl LaFong said:I work in the licensing business -- in the consumer products end, which includes home video. (I won't reveal the name of the major studio I work for, but its initials begin with a "Big W.") I've been here for 15 years, so I'm no novice at DVD marketing strategies.
At this point, Criterion has already blown both the official 50th Anniversary AND Christmas 2013. With all due respect to everyone who has stated otherwise, do NOT hold your breath for a January/February announcement. From a marketing perspective, there's no practical reason for them to hurry up the release at this point. That would be like bolting the proverbial barn door after the horse has flown. Save your shekels for Christmas 2014. That would be my earliest guess, strictly from a business standpoint. As cineMANIAC said: just being realistic here.