CONSOLIDATED LOTR:FOTR Extended Ed. Problem Thread; Please Post ALL Problem Reports Here!

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by JeffreyMercado, Nov 12, 2002.

  1. JeffreyMercado

    JeffreyMercado Second Unit

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2002
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    0
    I put on the DTS 6.1 track on the new extended version of LOTR and found the bass was lacking. I took it out checked the calibration, everything was normal. I then checked my samson amp, I have a SVS sub, again everything was fine. I popped in AOTC and thought wow with the opening ship scene. Switched to DD on the LOTR disk and the bass was there right away. A huge difference, could this be a bass problem like the one on the initial release of Jurassic Park? If you are having the same problem please let me know.
     
  2. Ken_McAlinden

    Ken_McAlinden Producer
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2001
    Messages:
    6,171
    Likes Received:
    66
    Location:
    Livonia, MI USA
    Real Name:
    Kenneth McAlinden
    Does your amp have a LFE gain setting for DD and DTS? Typically DD should be at zero and DTS at +10 (that's usually the maximum allowable setting for both). Also, there could be a volume offset (not just bass though) depending on the dialnorm setting for the DD track. I will listen to some of both tracks this evening.

    Regards,
     
  3. JeffreyMercado

    JeffreyMercado Second Unit

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2002
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    0
    All I had to listen to was the beginning during the war with Sauron. The troops marching, fighting, and then his arrival, lots of bass on the DD track. When he blows up there's a wind cloud that really goes low as it spreads out. On the DTS track it was very humble sounding. If I put in my DTS version of Jurassic Park I it scares everyone just with the opening credits.
     
  4. Josh Lowe

    Josh Lowe Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jun 19, 2002
    Messages:
    1,063
    Likes Received:
    0
    do you have a harman/kardon receiver?
     
  5. Paul W

    Paul W Second Unit

    Joined:
    Dec 17, 1999
    Messages:
    468
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have too much bass during the last alliance scene. And all in the wrong places. When the archers start firing, there are some huge booms and then when Sauron walks up, nothing. I wonder if therer is a sync problem with the DTS track.
     
  6. Joe Woj

    Joe Woj Agent

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
    Just want to know if anybody else encountered these problems are not...

    There are two spots on the DTS track where there is a slight hiccup and freeze up...it only happens for a second, shorter than a layer change, but it's there.

    The first one happens right after the Fellowship of the Ring logo is displayed on the screen, with Bilbo is writing in his book, during the new introduction to the Shire.

    The second time is right before Aragorn begins to talk to Boromir while they are resting in Lorien. It's right before he says..."take some rest...these borders are well protected..."

    These only happen on the DTS track...I tested all the other sound tracks, including the commentaries, and it only happens on the DTS track. Has anyone else noticed this or do you think it's a problem with my discs?

    Edit - I have the Toshiba 4800 and the Sony HT-DDW740 receiver.
     
  7. Trent_N

    Trent_N Agent

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    My X-Box isn't able to recognize the LOTR:Extended DVD I picked up today (my computer DVD player doesn't have any problem with it). Is anyone else experiencing a similar problem? Any recommendation on how to fix the problem?

    Thanks.
     
  8. Trent_N

    Trent_N Agent

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sorry about the double post.
     
  9. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,769
    Likes Received:
    2
    Please report all problems LOTR:FOTR Extended Edition in this thread. Also, take the time to read other posts; you may find that someone else already has addressed your particular problem.
    M.
     
  10. DaveGTP

    DaveGTP Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,096
    Likes Received:
    0
    I got a second-and-a-half or so skip about halfway through each of the first 2 discs. (I think the first was approx when Gandalf got to Orthanc?) I am hazarding a guess that it was a layer change?? I'm using my PS2 as my DVD player...
     
  11. Eric C D

    Eric C D Second Unit

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2001
    Messages:
    285
    Likes Received:
    0
    I got the same momentary freeze as Dave GTP - as Gandalf arrives at Orthanc. I only noticed it because the birds weren't moving. Was it the layer change?

    Haven't watched the second disk yet. Where's that hiccup?

    Eric
     
  12. BrettisMckinney

    BrettisMckinney Second Unit

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2002
    Messages:
    281
    Likes Received:
    0
    I heard somewhere that active subs with their own crossover and levels will show huge problems with disc if they are not calibrated right.
     
  13. Adam_WM

    Adam_WM Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2001
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    0
    watched it today on DTS. Sony receiver, Panasonic Prog Scan player. AWESOME. No problems. Bass sounded tremendous.
     
  14. Joe Woj

    Joe Woj Agent

    Joined:
    Jul 26, 2002
    Messages:
    47
    Likes Received:
    0
     
  15. DaveGTP

    DaveGTP Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2002
    Messages:
    2,096
    Likes Received:
    0
    Aha! That's what I thought it was. You home theater-serious guys are educating me [​IMG] Is this an issue with the game-machines turned DVD players? Anyone know if the Sony DVD-player update might clear it up? Or am I going to be forced to go buy a real DVD player? [​IMG] I don't think the 7 cents in my bank account will cover it...but even such a little thing kind of bugs me..
     
  16. Steve_Tk

    Steve_Tk Cinematographer

    Joined:
    Apr 30, 2002
    Messages:
    2,833
    Likes Received:
    1
    No problems here. Panasonic DVD and HK reciever.
     
  17. Aaron Garman

    Aaron Garman Second Unit

    Joined:
    Oct 23, 2001
    Messages:
    382
    Likes Received:
    0
    Hello all. Watched the EE today in DTS and it sounded terrific! I did note that the bass after Sauron explodes was not as deep as the Dolby track, however the DTS just felt clearer, more natural, and simulated what I remember hearing in the theatre over 7 times. Now onto The Appendices...


    AJ Garman
     
  18. JeffreyMercado

    JeffreyMercado Second Unit

    Joined:
    Feb 1, 2002
    Messages:
    326
    Likes Received:
    0
    I have an Outlaw 950 prepro and it was my friends extended edition. I get my gift pack from Amazon tomorrow so I will have to test again. All of my equipment has been calibrated with an Avia and Video Essentials disk. I really hope my disk will be alright.
     
  19. NateLindsey

    NateLindsey Extra

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2001
    Messages:
    19
    Likes Received:
    0
    One problem I had was towards the end of DVD 1. When Aragorn stands up to offer Frodo his support in the Fellowship, the dvd just froze. I backed it up a little bit and hit play and it finished out the DVD fine.

    I have a Pioneer DV-525. I'll have to watch it again to see if it happens again and it wasn't just a fluke.
     
  20. Benjamin_L

    Benjamin_L Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2001
    Messages:
    84
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trent,

    The 1st disc in the extended edition worked fine in my X-box. Maybe yours is damaged? I haven't had time to test the 2nd or the supplementals, did you try them out as well?

    Peace!
     

Share This Page