CONFIRMED: Alien films coming in 2010 to Blu-ray

Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by Jari K, Jul 10, 2007.

  1. Paul_Scott

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    From what I've seen I think you're still safe, Paul. But if you start to find yourself improperly and over-using ellipsis points...then you might need to worry
     
  2. Jim_K

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    I'd love for that to happen but someone will have to drag him away kicking and screaming from his Avatar and Battle Angel projects so we're looking at 2009/2010. I still can't believe there's no anamorphic versions of the Abyss and True Lies.
     
  3. Tim Glover

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    This would be great for Blu-ray and really anyone who likes HD. Alien & Aliens are classics. I'm in the HD DVD camp soley for now but truthfully, the studios need to release these big guns. I know it took some time for these to arrive on sd-dvd but the HD studios (ALL) need to start bringing in the big boys. Now.

    David is right (this time [​IMG])....the last batch of Alien sd-dvds were pretty good. Strangely, it was the original Alien from 1979 that looked the best.

    Gotta admit, it would be kind of cool to hear "Get away from her you BITCH!" in lossless sound. [​IMG]
     
  4. Jari K

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    I believe that "Aliens" will always going to look somewhat grainy and "dark".

    Cameron explains in the audio commentary, that the film stock used at the time by Kodak was higher speed negative than before, which created a rather grainy and sometimes noisy picture. So, since HD has more detail-level/sharpness, "Aliens" will probably look even more "grainy" on HD than on SD DVD.. In some way.

    "Quadrilogy" on HD would be awesome. Then again - if the extras are still in SD, then I´m not sure that do I need them "again"..
     
  5. Grant H

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    Then again grain can often be rendered smaller in HD than in SD when it gets spread across more pixels. Of course, this assumes we get a transfer free of noise reduction, which we didn't before.
     
  6. Paul_Scott

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    The problem with Aliens was that the DC made it a lengthy film- and that extra footage had to be on the same disc as the theatrical cut. If the feature had only been 90 minutes, they probably could have bumped up the bit rate more which would have accomodated the grainier elements better, with less of a need to soften them up.
    I'm guessing that it was the visible grain structure coupled with a long run time and the multiple audio tracks, that neccessitated the application of DVNR.

    I don't think people would have been any happier if the film had been split over two discs.

    Is the noise reduction applied a the telecine phase, or at just prior to the compression? Would they have to strike a new transfer for it, or is all the information still there waiting to be better realized?
     
  7. Neil Middlemiss

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    Aliens is my all time fave movie and, if released, might be enough to turn me from HD-DVD only to Neutral! - Maybe [​IMG]
     
  8. Douglas Monce

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    There is a problem with the Aliens Directors Cut. The DC was completed on NTSC video, so there is no HD version. They would have to go back and rescan all the material and then completely re assemble the movie from scratch. I don't know if this is what Fox has in mind or if they are just planning to release the Theatrical cut.

    I would prefer to see the DC because I think it's a much better film.

    Doug
     
  9. Dave Mack

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    Well Josh (beatboy from AVS) was just vindicated with his DC of TROY announcement that he had 12 days before other sites. He also does get all his BDs very, very early.
     
  10. Dave Mack

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    Agreed. I think having Ripley's character be a mom who lost her kid ( due to floating out there for 57 years or so) makes the Newt connection much more powerful.
     
  11. Douglas Monce

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    I also like the Colony sequence. It gives you an idea of what the Colony was like before the Alien attack. I think it give the later scenes a slightly different perspective when the Marines arrive. It also makes the pacing of the film more like the first one.

    Doug
     
  12. Paul Arnette

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    He appears to employ, what I like to refer to as, the "Throw a lot of crap against the wall and see what sticks approach". He also strikes me as the poster child for why BD supporters often seen in a negative light.

    But that's really neither here nor there with regard to Alien or Aliens.

    Here is something that is...

    If this release sees the light of day anytime soon, I bet it is to tie into Aliens vs. Predator. So, I'm not getting my hopes up before summer time at the earliest, if that is when that flix is supposed to come out.
     
  13. Geoff_D

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    Nope. That was the laserdisc. DVD was taken from re-scanned film elements. No technical probs in doing a new HD transfer free from DNR, as folk have mentioned above. The only obstacle would be Cameron himself taking the time to approve the new transfer.

    Anyhoo, Alien looked superb on DVHS and I hope that the BD edition will top that. A new transfer of Aliens is a must though. And it'd be nice if the extended version of Alien3 got the final polish that it deserves, like having the iffy dialogue recordings re-done.
     
  14. Douglas Monce

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    I had not heard that the DVD was created from new scans. Where did you hear that it had been recreated?

    Doug

    Edit: I just did some research and you are absolutely correct. The film elements were rescanned in High Def for the first DVD release.
     
  15. Dave Mack

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    true but how else would he have gotten the Troy DC info...? That's really random to be just a "guess". He had the correct day as well.
    He's obviously getting info. from someone, even if 1/2 of it doesn't come true.
     
  16. Dave Mack

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    Well, unless Cameron is doing another damned underwater documentary, he should make the time! Loved "Ghosts..." "Aliens of the deep.." was starting to push it IMHO...

    And yes, properly loop the A3 extended scene dialog and I would be chuffed.
    I really liked the extended version...

    [​IMG]
     
  17. Jari K

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    I personally don´t like the "Colony sequence" at the beginning. Scene reveals too much - too soon. Based again on the audio commentary, Cameron is feeling the same way (even when he generally prefers the "dir cut").

    My review can be found here, if someone wants to read:
    http://www.therewindforums.co.uk/for...ic.php?p=73250

    I quote myself: "I don´t really want to choose between the versions, since I enjoy them both". I honestly like both versions and in the end I can´t decide which one is the "ultimate version".
     
  18. Dave Mack

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    on thing the colony footage does is show the huge change in Newt's character though. In the theatrical cut, she's just some alomost mute shellshocked kid. By seeing her before the Aliens whooped ass, the contrast in striking.
    I also thought the scenes of Newt's family finding the derelict ship were really creepy and had a very ALIEN vibe to them.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. Jari K

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    To me, the "introduction of Newt" works better in "Theatrical version", since there you have (indeed) that mute shellshocked kid, who has survived the attack(s) of Aliens, but first the audience (like the soldiers) doesn´t really know what´s going on (since she doesn´t speak). Seeing the "Dir Cut", you´ve already learned part of what happened, taking away that surprise element. I don´t mind the rest of the additional footage in dir.cut, but for me the film works better without the "colony footage".

    Both are great versions, though, and I really hope that both versions will be released on HD. Sometimes - less can be more.
     
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    Same here. the scenes of the derelict ship brought me back to the original film. The rest of Aliens was a much more action oriented film (which is in no way bad). I personally would take the DC over the original any day.
     

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