Concept Albums: A Music Tournament

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  1. Angelo.M

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    concept albums: a music tournament

    A tournament for 'concept' albums. I hope we'll have some interesting discussion along the way, since we're likely to differ on our definitions of what a 'true' concept album is.

    We'll shoot for 64 albums. Everyone gets 10 nominations, 5 seconds. 5 thirds and 1 automatic for now.

    In so far...

    1. Dark Side of the Moon, Pink Floyd
    2. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, The Beatles
    3. What's Goin' On, Marvin Gaye
    4. OK Computer, Radiohead
    5. Tommy, The Who
    6. 2112, Rush
    7. The Ghost of Tom Joad, Bruce Springsteen
    8. The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars, David Bowie
    9. Plastic Ono Band, John Lennon
    10. Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots, The Flaming Lips
    11. The Wall, Pink Floyd
    12. Magical Mystery Tour, The Beatles
    13. Berlin, Lou Reed
    14. Scarlet's Walk, Tori Amos
    15. The Final Cut, Pink Floyd
    16. Quadrophenia, The Who
    17. Mermaid Avenue, Billy Bragg and Wilco
    18. The Beatles (white album), The Beatles
    19. Operation Mindcrime, Queensryche
    20. The Who Sell Out
    21. Days of Future Passed, Moody Blues
    22. Disintegration, The Cure
    23. The Downward Spiral, Nine Inch Nails
    24. Queen II, Queen
    25. Fear of a Black Planet, Public Enemy
    26. Joe's Garage, Frank Zappa
    27. Donald Fagen, The Nightfly

    Seconded...

    Animals, Pink Floyd
    We're Only in it for the Money, Frank Zappa
    The Shaming of the True, Kevin Gilbert
    The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, Genesis

    Nominated...

    Blood on the Tracks, Bob Dylan
    Blue, Joni Mitchell
    Sea Change, Beck
    Metropolis, Part 2: Scenes From A Memory, Dream Theater
    Escalator Over the Hill, Carla Bley
    Arthur, Kinks
    S&M, Metallica
    The Shaming of the True, Kevin Gilbert
    Muswell Hillbillies, The Kinks
    Sandinista!, The Clash
    Setting Sons, The Jam
    Tales from Topographic Oceans, Yes
    A Love Supreme, John Coltrane
    Red Headed Stranger, Willie Nelson
    Paradise Theater, Styx
    Computer World, Kraftwerk
    Kamakiriad, Donald Fagen
    It's Only Right and Natural, The Frogs
    Radio KAOS, Roger Waters
    Third Reich n' Roll, The Residents
    69 Love Songs, The Magnetic Fields
    Helter Stupid, Negativland
    Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus, Spirit
    Hemispheres, Rish
    Klaatu, Hope
    Stay Human, Michael Franti and Spearhead
    Bitches Brew, Miles Davis
    Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, Iron Maiden
    Graceland, Paul Simon
    Subterranea, IQ
    Kilroy Was Here, Styx
    Third Stage, Boston

    Go nuts...
     
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    I'll nominate:

    Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime

    Dream Theater - Metropolis, Part 2: Scenes From A Memory
     
  3. george kaplan

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    double post
     
  4. george kaplan

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    I'll nominate

    The Wall - Pink Floyd

    Escalator Over the Hill - Carla Bley

    The Who Sell Out

    Arthur - Kinks

    We're Only in it for the Money - Frank Zappa
     
  5. Dome Vongvises

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    Nominations
    Metallica - S&M
    The Beatles - The White Album


    Seconding
    Pink Floyd - The Wall

    3 noms, 2 secs, and 3 thirds left

    I know I don't have to, but I'll justify my picks.

    Metallica - S&M
    - It's a pretty basic idea that was executed quite well IMHO. They basically combined metal antics with a live orchestra. Hearing "One" with a orchestral backing is quite something.

    The Beatles - The White Album
    - Much like Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, the songs make the transition from one to the next with no clean clear "cut" time in between. This creates, in effect, an album that is a pure listening experience that journeys from one end to the next.
     
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    Third: The Wall - Pink Floyd

    Second: Operation Mindcrime - Queensryche

    Nominate:

    The Shaming of the True - Kevin Gilbert - don't expect many of you to know this album, but he was half of "Toy Matinee", and an amazing talent who died of an accidental suicide in 1996. This is one of the great albums of the '90's.
     
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    Nominate
    The Kinks - Muswell Hillbillies
    The Clash - Sandinista!
    The Jam - Setting Sons
    The Cure - Disintegration

    2nd
    The Who Sell Out
     
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    Nominate:

    Tales From Topographic Oceans - Yes
    A Love Supreme - John Coltrane
     
  9. Angelo.M

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    Dome:

    No, you don't have to justify your picks, but please feel free. I think there is a distinction between "concept" albums and albums that truly feel of a piece, like the "white album," but I certainly can't fault the nomination.

    Master list updated. The Wall is in. Keep 'em coming.

    Brook:

    Kudos on Coltrane. I think there are other good examples in jazz, but A Love Supreme stands out. Great new book on the session just came out, by the same guy who did the book on the Kind of Blue sessions.
     
  10. ChuckDeLa

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    Heh, I ran a concept albums tournament on a different forum a couple years ago. I did kind of a bad job with it, though. I forgot what album won in the end, too.

    I'll be back in the morning with noms.
     
  11. Angelo.M

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    Chuck:

    Cool. Welcome aboard.

    In the spirit of moving us along, I'm adding 5 more automatics to the tournament:

    Magical Mystery Tour, The Beatles
    Berlin, Lou Reed
    Scarlet's Walk, Tori Amos
    The Final Cut, Pink Floyd
    Quadrophenia, The Who

    Come on you fans of Genesis, the Alan Parson's Project and Emerson, Lake and Palmer... Go nuts...
     
  12. george kaplan

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    I'll second:

    Magical Mystery Tour
    The White Album

    I'm out of noms, but here's some 'suggestions':

    Red Headed Stranger - Willie Nelson
    Paradise Theater - Styx
    Days of Future Passed - Moody Blues
     
  13. Angelo.M

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    George:

    I made Magical Mystery Tour an automatic, so you get your second back.

    Everyone who has already voted gets 5 more nominations, 2 more seconds, 2 more thirds, plus one automatic. All new folks get 10 nominations, 5 seconds, 5 thirds and 1 automatic. I will update the original post to reflect this.
     
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    Cool.

    I'll nominate:

    Red Headed Stranger - Willie Nelson
    Paradise Theater - Styx
    Days of Future Passed - Moody Blues
     
  15. ChuckDeLa

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    Seems like there's a lot of nominees missing from the first post....

    Nominate:
    Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
    Frank Zappa - Joe's Garage
    Kraftwerk - Computer World
    Donald Fagen - Kamakiriad
    The Frogs - It's Only Right and Natural
    Roger Waters - Radio KAOS
    The Residents - Third Reich n' Roll
    The Magnetic Fields - 69 Love Songs
    Negativland - Helter Stupid
    Pink Floyd - Animals


     
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    Another two cents: I think it's a mistake to allow automatics in this tournament, as people will invariably auto their most obscure favorites, and thus you'll end up with a lot of 1-0 victories.
     
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    Spirit- Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus
    Rush- Hemispheres
    Klaatu- Hope
    Nine Inch Nails- The Downward Spiral
    Michael Franti and Spearhead -Stay Human
    Miles Davis- Bitches Brew
    Queen- Queen II
     
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    Second:

    Days of Future Passed - Moody Blues
     
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    Second:

    Queen- Queen II
     
  20. Brook K

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    I didn't realize they were concept albums, but I'll certainly 2nd

    Disintegration - The Cure
    The Downward Spiral - Nine Inch Nails

    I'll nominate
    Fear Of A Black Planet - Public Enemy
     

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