My question was valid as I use an ipad via their "hdmi adapter" with a 5 year old 30ft hdmi. I bought a magnavox streamer that had no problem with 30ft. Also tried an RCA. Finally after returning them(lackluster app content), I bought a Roku. All three, an ipad, 3 different laptops and a "wii over hdmi" have no problem with this 5yo 30ft hdmi. As for which pre-2012 BD player to buy...the one with the apps you'll use.