Best Picture Winners, Don't agree w/ who won, which would you pick?

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  1. DouglasRobert

    DouglasRobert Second Unit

    Sep 12, 2003
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    Going through the database at the Oscar site and noticed how many films tat have won Best Picture either shouldn't have or deserved to win.

    Since I really know only 1950's and on films I will comment on those. If you wish to discuss pre-1950 winners you can.

    1950: All About Eve (Winner)
    I think Sunset Blvd. should have won.

    1951: An American in Paris (Winner)
    I guess I agree, but A Streetcar Named Desire is close.

    1952: The Greatest Show on Earth (Winner)
    High Noon should have won.

    1953: From Here to Eternity (Winner)
    I agree.

    1954: On the Waterfront (Winner)

    1955: Marty (Winner)
    Mister Roberts would be my pick.

    1956: Around the World in 80 Days (Winner)
    Very close, but I think King and I or The Ten Commandments should have won. King and I would be my top pick.

    1957: Bridge on the River Kwai (Winner)

    1958: Gigi (Winner)
    Guess I agree.

    1959: Ben-Hur (Winner)
    Diary of Anne Frank is my pick.

    1960: The Apartment (Winner)
    Guess I agree.

    1961: West Side Story (Winner)

    1962: Lawrence of Arabia (Winner)

    1963: Tom Jones (Winner)
    How the West Was Won, would have been my pick.

    1964: My Fair Lady (Winner)
    Either Mary Poppins or Dr. Strangelove should have won.

    1965: The Sound of Music (Winner)

    1966: A Man for All Seasons (Winner)
    The Sand Pebbles would be my pick.

    1967: In the Heat of the Night (Winner)
    Probably The Graduate.

    1968: Oliver! (Winner)
    The Lion in Winter is my pick.

    1969: Midnight Cowboy (Winner)

    1970: Patton (Winner)

    1971: The French Connection (Winner)

    1972: The Godfather (Winner)

    1973: The Sting (Winner)

    1974: The Godfather Part II (Winner)
    Agree, but Chinatown is close second.

    1975: One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (Winner)

    1976: Rocky (Winner)
    Taxi Driver is my pick.

    1977: Annie Hall (Winner)

    1978: The Deer Hunter (Winner)

    1979: Kramer vs. Kramer (Winner)
    Apocalypse Now or Normae Rae should have won.

    1980: Ordinary People (Winner)
    Raging Bull should have won.

    1981: Chariots of Fire (Winner)
    Guess I agree, even though its not one of my favorites.

    1982: Gandhi (Winner)
    E.T. or Tootsie should have won.

    1983: Terms of Endearment (Winner)

    1984: Amadeus (Winner)
    Good pick, but A Passage to India is a close second.

    1985: Out of Africa (Winner)
    The Color Purple should have won.

    1986: Platoon (Winner)

    1987: The Last Emperor (Winner)
    Broadcast News would have been my pick.

    1988: Rain Man (Winner)
    Mississippi Burning would have been my pick.

    1989: Driving Miss Daisy (Winner)
    Born on the Fourth of July is my pick.

    1990: Dances with Wolves (Winner)
    Good Fellas should have won.

    1991: Silence of the Lambs (Winner)
    Beauty and the Beast should have won.

    1992: Unforgiven (Winner)

    1993: Schindler's List (Winner)

    1994: Forrest Gump (Winner)
    Agree, though Pulp Fiction is a close second.

    1995: Braveheart (Winner)

    1996: The English Patient (Winner)
    Fargo should have won.

    1997: Titanic (Winner)

    1998: Shakespeare in Love (Winner)
    Saving Private Ryan should have won.

    1999: American Beauty (Winner)
    Sixth Sense is my pick.

    2000: Gladiator (Winner)

    2001: A Beautiful Mind (Winner)
    Lord of the Rings: Fellowship is my pick.

    2002: Chicago (Winner)
    The only one nominated that I have seen is Two Towers so I guess I have no comment for this year.

    2003: Lord of the Rings: Return of the King (Winner)

    Feel free to post your thoughts.

    Just a quick edit.

    Your picks should only come from the films that were officially nominated for Best Picture.
  2. Rob Lutter

    Rob Lutter Producer

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    Star Wars

  3. Patrick McCart

    Patrick McCart Lead Actor

    May 16, 2001
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    I'll have to agree with Around the World in Eighty Days for 1956... It was an independent film, low-budget, and was nearly entirely shot on location. (I think all the model/effect shots were done in California) Although, it's sort of a toss-up... The Ten Commandments and The King and I are excellent films. It's a pity The Searchers wasn't even nominated.
  4. Tommy G

    Tommy G Screenwriter

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    Here are my picks:

    1930All Quiet on the Western Front
    1932Trouble in Paradise
    1933Duck Soup
    1934It Happened One Night
    1935A Night at the Opera
    1936Modern Times
    1937La Grande Illusion
    1938Bringing Up Baby
    1939The Wizard of Oz
    1940The Great Dictator
    1941Citizen Kane
    1943Shadow of a Doubt
    1944Double Indemnity
    1945Brief Encounter
    1946It's a Wonderful Life
    1947Out of the Past
    1948The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
    1949The Third Man
    1950Sunset Blvd.
    1951Strangers on a Train
    1952High Noon
    1953Stalag 17
    1954Seven Samurai
    1955Night of the Hunter
    1956The Searchers
    195712 Angry Men
    1959North by Northwest
    1962Lawrence of Arabia
    1963The Great Escape
    1964Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
    1965The Battle of Algiers
    1966The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
    1967In the Heat of the Night
    1968Once Upon a Time in the West
    1969Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
    1971A Clockwork Orange
    1972The Godfather
    1973The Sting
    1976Taxi Driver
    1977Star Wars
    1978Dawn of the Dead
    1979Apocalypse Now
    1980The Empire Strikes Back
    1981Raiders of the Lost Ark
    1982Blade Runner
    1983Return of the Jedi
    1984Once Upon a Time in America
    1987The Princess Bride
    1991The Silence of the Lambs
    1993Schindler's List
    1994The Shawshank Redemption
    1995The Usual Suspects
    1997L.A. Confidential
    1998Saving Private Ryan
    1999The Matrix
    2001The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
    2002The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
    2003The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King

    EDIT I realize some are foreign but still to me are the best picture that year.
  5. Kevin_H

    Kevin_H Stunt Coordinator

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    The Pianist should have won.
  6. Bill Williams

    Bill Williams Screenwriter

    May 28, 2003
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    Pulp Fiction doesn't even come close to shining Forrest Gump's shoes. 1994 was the year of the Gump.
  7. TheLongshot

    TheLongshot Producer

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    Almost Famous, which wasn't nominated, should have won.

  8. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Executive Producer

    May 19, 2002
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    Here are my picks for each year. I limited myself to only those films that had been nominated, so I missed out on a few like ‘2001’. Some years was a choice among films, none of which were deserving (e.g. The Deer Hunter in 1978 and some years there was an abundance of great films from which to choose, 1939 being an obvious example.)

    In a few cases in the early years I have not seen all the films. I never realized until now that Grand Illusion had been nominated. I did not know that foreign language films had been eligible somewhere along the line.

    The format is year, winner, my pick.

    1929The Broadway Melody--The Broadway Melody
    1930All Quiet on the Western Front--All Quiet on the Western Front
    1931Cimarron--The Front Page
    1932Grand Hotel--Shanghai Express
    1933Cavalcade--The Private Life of Henry VIII
    1934It Happened One Night--It Happened One Night
    1935Mutiny on the Bounty--Mutiny on the Bounty
    1936The Great Ziegfeld--Dodsworth
    1937The Life of Emile Zola--Captains Courageous
    1938You Can't Take it with You--Grand Illusion
    1939Gone with the Wind--The Wizard of Oz
    1940Rebecca--The Philadelphia Story
    1941How Green Was My Valley?--Citizen Kane
    1942Mrs. Miniver--The Magnificent Ambersons
    1944Going My Way--Double Indemnity
    1945The Lost Weekend--The Lost Weekend
    1946The Best Years of Our Lives--Henry V
    1947Gentleman's Agreement--Great Expectations
    1948Hamlet--The Red Shoes
    1949All the King's Men--All the King's Men
    1950All About Eve--Sunset Blvd.
    1951An American in Paris--A Streetcar Named Desire
    1952The Greatest Show on Earth--The Quiet Man
    1953From Here to Eternity--Roman Holiday
    1954On the Waterfront--On the Waterfront
    1955Marty--Mister roberts
    1956Around the World in Eighty Days--Giant
    1957The Bridge on the River Kwai--The Bridge on the River Kwai
    1959Ben-Hur--Anatomy of a Murder
    1960The Apartment--The Apartment
    1961West Side Story--West Side Story
    1962Lawrence of Arabia--Lawrence of Arabia
    1963Tom Jones--How the West Was Won
    1964My Fair Lady--Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
    1965The Sound of Music--The Sound of Music
    1966A Man for All Seasons--Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
    1967In the Heat of the Night--Bonnie and Clyde
    1969Midnight --CowboyMidnight Cowboy
    1971The French Connection--A Clockwork Orange
    1972The Godfather--The Godfather
    1973The Sting--American Graffiti
    1974The Godfather, Part II--The Godfather, Part II
    1975One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest--One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
    1976Rocky--Taxi Driver
    1977Annie Hall--Star Wars
    1978The Deer Hunter--The Deer Hunter
    1979Kramer vs. Kramer--Apocalypse Now
    1980Ordinary People--Raging Bull
    1981Chariots of Fire--Raiders of the Lost Ark
    1983Terms of Endearment--The Right Stuff
    1985Out of Africa--Kiss of the Spider Woman
    1986Platoon--Hannah and Her Sisters
    1987The Last Emperor--The Last Emperor
    1988Rain Man--Rain Man
    1989Driving Miss Daisy--My Left Foot
    1990Dances with Wolves--Goodfellas
    1991The Silence of the Lambs--The Silence of the Lambs
    1993Schindler's List--Schindler's List
    1994Forrest Gump--Forrest Gump
    1996The English Patent--The English Patent
    1998Shakespeare in Love--The Thin Red Line
    1999American Beauty--American Beauty
    2000Gladiator--Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
    2001A Beautiful Mind--The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
    2002Chicago--The Pianist
    2003Return of the King--Mystic River
  9. Bill Williams

    Bill Williams Screenwriter

    May 28, 2003
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    Waitaminnit... you mean to say that you think FOTR should have won and ROTK shouldn't have? (scratching my head on this one) Something's fishy in the state of Gondor on this one...
  10. Chad R

    Chad R Cinematographer

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    Did Woody buy off the Academy or something? It wasn't his fault someone else picked his film above Star Wars.
  11. Dome Vongvises

    Dome Vongvises Lead Actor

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  12. Mikel_Cooperman

    Mikel_Cooperman Producer

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    A beautiful Mind I thought was more a Lifetime TV movie of the week than a Best Picture winner for an Oscar.
  13. Lew Crippen

    Lew Crippen Executive Producer

    May 19, 2002
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    I don’t think that I’m alone in this assessment. At least here is my reasoning.

    Don’t forget that deciding the ‘best’ movie in any one year is very different than deciding the relative merit of movies from different years. To get away from the LOTR example, consider the films nominated in 1959 (1958 films): Gigi, Auntie Mame, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, The Defiant Ones and Separate Tables. Now there are some decent films here, but I don’t really think that any of them are outstanding. Aintie Mame now looks very dated with an overblown Rosalind Russell, with heavy-handed direction. Cat on a Hot Tin Roof has pretty good acting, especially by Elizabeth Taylor and Paul Newman, but it suffers quite a bit from Tennessee Williams’ play being watered down in order to meet code requirements of the day. The Defiant Ones, retains some of its power, but like many films of this time that addressed racism in America, it now seems a bit much—plus Tony Curtis is really not very good in his role. And Separate Tabels, another adaptation of a stage play, looks today as though the director had no idea how to use the camera—it looks like a play, not a film. That plus the prime device of the play—two couples played by the same actors is eliminated in the film, leaving a very weakened visual impact—and less range for the actors.

    So while Gigi is nowhere on my list of great musicals, it is the film I picked. I could make the same type of analysis for The Sound of Music, which I find nowhere near as satisfactory as the play.

    Contrast this with my pick for 1939—The Wizard of Oz. Some of the other nominations in the 1940 awards were, Goodbye Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Ninotchka, Of Mice and Men, Stagecoach, Wuthering Heights and the winner Gone with the Wind. And not even nomionated is my favoriate of that great year: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.

    Now all of these 1939 films I feel are better films than Gigi and The Sound of Music. But they are on the list and only one of the 1939 films is on the list.

    In 2001, I liked Moulin Rouge, Gosford Park and The Fellowship of the Ring. Perhaps Gosford Park is a bit light and too clever and Moulin Rouge only at the top of the second rank of musicals. Given my view, the LOTR film is an easy choice.

    Two years later a film is nominated that I think has some of the finest acting I have ever seen (and I’m not just talking about Penn and Robbins). Plus, though many disagree I loved the story as it was presented, finding it a very powerful portrait of a man and how he functions in a narrow segment of society and with his friends, family and acquaintances. And I thought that the cinematrography was very good. So all in all, I think Mystic River to be a better film than the last LOTR film. Which says nothing about which of the LOTR films I liked best.

    I’m not at all upset or concerned about the Academy’s choice. And I am sure that in another 20 years few will remember Mystic River while all of the LOTR films will still be praised and watche by many, many people.
  14. Dome Vongvises

    Dome Vongvises Lead Actor

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    Well said. [​IMG]
  15. Bill J

    Bill J Producer

    Oct 27, 2001
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    I don't feel like going all the way back to 1950 right now, but I will go back to the last time the academy picked the correct best picture winner (in my opinion)

    Titles in bold are the ones that deserved to have won:

    1994- Forrest Gump - Pulp Fiction
    1995- Braveheart - Apollo 13
    1996- The English Patient - Fargo
    1997- Titanic - L.A. Confidential
    1998- Shakespeare in Love - Saving Private Ryan
    1999- American Beauty - Three Kings (not nominated)
    2000- Gladiator - Traffic
    2001- A Beautiful Mind - Black Hawk Down (not nominated)
    2002- Chicago (have not seen) - Gangs of New York
    2003- The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King - Master & Commander

    Although I have not yet seen Chicago, Gangs of New York was the best film that I saw that year.
  16. Vickie_M

    Vickie_M Producer

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    As someone who was so madly, blindly in love with the oiginal Star Wars that I saw it over 100 times in the theater, the Academy was dead on in choosing Annie Hall.

    Ditto Gandhi, a great, GREAT film. Tell me you've seen the film all the way through, IN THE THEATER, and then I'll respect (disagree with, but respect) the opinion of someone who says it shouldn't have won.
  17. Tommy G

    Tommy G Screenwriter

    Sep 19, 2000
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    I, for one, saw both Annie Hall and Star Wars in the theater in '77 and still to this day feel like Star Wars was robbed. Same thing in '82 with Blade Runner and Ghandi. I must admit that I was not fond of Blade Runner at the time but now believe that it should have won.
  18. JonZ

    JonZ Lead Actor

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    79 Apocalypse Now over Kramer vs Kramer
    80 Raging Bull over Ordinary People
    81 Raiders Of The Lost Ark over Chariots OF Fire
    82 Ghandi
    84 Amadeus
    85 Ran over Out Of Africa
    86 Platoon
    87 Last Emperor
    89 Born On The Fourth Of July,Drugstore Cowboy (Tie-cant pick)over Driving Miss Daisy
    90 Goodfellas (Though I can live Dances With Wolves)
    91 JFK over Silence OF The Lambs
    92 Malcolm X over Unforgiven
    93 Schindlers List
    94 Forrest Gump,Ed Wood (I think FG may be he better film,but I love EW so much)
    95 Nixon,Dead Man Walking, Leaving Las Vegas,even Babe (What a great year for movies)are all better than Braveheart IMHO
    96 Bound Over The English Patient
    97 Fargo over Titanic
    98 A Simple Plan,Saving Private Ryan,The Thin Red Line all over the hugely overrated mediocre Shakespeare in Love
    99 The Insider over American Beauty
    00 Requiem For A Dream over Gladiator
    01 Memento over A Beautiful Mind
    02 Black Hawk Down/The Pianist (undecided)over Chicago
    03 ROTK (The film enjoyed the most this year is one I didnt wat to see - Seabiscuit)
  19. John Spencer

    John Spencer Supporting Actor

    Mar 2, 2000
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    Well, Vickie, I saw both Ghandi and Blade Runner in the theater in 1982, and I liked Blade Runner so much better. But I was only 12, so I never piss and moan about things like that. [​IMG]
  20. Jay E

    Jay E Cinematographer

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    I think LOTR is only the third film from the past 15 years that I didn't mind the Academy giving the Best picture Oscar, the others being Schindler's List & American Beauty.

    One of the least deserving films for me is Braveheart, a film that pounds you over the head in trying to tell you how to feel and presents simplistic characters of good & evil. I can see why this is so popular with audiences but I prefer films that allow the audience to actually think for themselves.

    I would have given the Oscar to a number of films before this, although there isn't one that stands out from among the crowd (Dead Man Walking, Heat, Usual Suspects, Leaving Las Vegas, Welcome to the Dollhouse).

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