Actually, Project Gotham is not a Turismo ripoff. I believe it is the sequel to Metropolis Street Racer which is nowhere close to being a sim-style racer. However, I feel that MSR is the best racing game ever. Great tracks, great cars, great graphics, and great gameplay. BTW, I am buying a Gamecube on launch day. I would buy one just for Rogue Leader. As far as Star Wars games go, Obi-Wan does not look nowhere near as good as Jedi Knight 2 for the PC. -Dean- ------------------ My HT Equipment "I've seen you and you are not cool."