Anyone have Time Warner Cable's PVR? Comments?

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  1. Tom McA

    Tom McA Stunt Coordinator

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    I just moved into a new 'hood, and was told by my TW cable installer that they're about to roll out their dual-tuner cable-box-PVR in the Los Angeles area shortly. A buddy of mine in western NY already has it, and he says it's kinda buggy. Anyone else have anything to say about this thing?
     
  2. JamesHl

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    Buy tivo instead. You can't trust that tw won't start controlling what you can and can't record.
     
  3. Tom McA

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    For now, I don't mind trying it. There's no startup cost, the monthly fee is cheaper than TiVo, and it has two internal tuners so I can watch one thing and tape another without jumping through duplicate equipment hoops.

    So, back to my original question...
     
  4. Stephen Tu

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    Yes, given the price differential it's worth a shot. Can always go to Tivo if it's still too buggy.
     
  5. Bob McElfresh

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    They are about to roll this out in San Diego as well. Here is a comparison between the SA8000 and the PVR501 from Dish:

     
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    There is a discussion going on at a different site, if rules allow I will post the link for it..Please let me know if it's OK.

    Harley
     
  8. Bob McElfresh

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    Harley: posting links to other sites is fine as long as it's not for your own commercial purpose or the site does not feature un-ethical (how to pirate things) material.
     
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    Bob

    Thanks for the swift answer I have NO Commercial interest.

    Here is the link: TWC vs TiVo

    Harley
     
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  12. Bob McElfresh

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    I have dual PVR's and they were necessary on hot Tuesday and Wed nights to get everything my family wanted to watch. Add Thursday night as well with Friends, Scrubs, CSI, Will and Grace - no way to get all this on competiting channels without dual tuners.
     
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    How can anyone say you'll never use the Dual tuners? If you have anyone else in the household then it is a necessity. Not having one is what kept me from getting TIVO and I hate DBS. Reading that debate on the link gave me this impression: It's a TIVO community BB. Most of those people have invested $300 + in their TIVO. Of course they are going to turn their nose up at the TWC PVR. For what it seems, if anyone can get past that then they seem to give it good reviews. Recommending it especially for folks that it's either the TWC PVR or nothing. Other than the few bells and whistles not included, I think it's a fine unit.
     
  14. Tom McA

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    Duane -

    Amen, brother. You said a few things better (and prolly less sarcastically) than I think I would have.

    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to the Software forum to ask why there aren't more full-frame DVD releases these days...[​IMG]
     
  15. Bob McElfresh

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    Duane - You have to admit that Tivo has done a great marketing job and that Tivo is currently the most popular PVR out. It does not mean that this fourm is Tivo based, just that Tivo has the largest market share.

    One of my gripes about the DVR is that it seems to be a ANALOG device. Just like your VCR, it takes the analog signals and converts them to digital so there is a generational loss. Yes, you have to subscribe to "Digital" service and pay an extra fee to use the "navigator" software, but this is so the DVR can show you a program guide, not do a digital-digital recording.

    I personally prefer the digital recorders from the sat companies (DirectTivo, PVR from Dish). These things record the actual digital signals so the playback is bit-for-bit identical to the original broadcast.
     
  16. Tom McA

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    Bob -
    I think Duane's (and my) point is that there is often a knee-jerk Tivo-centric response to issues raised on this forum. My original question at the start of this thread was to ask specifically about the TWC DVR. The first response did not answer my question; it was just "Buy Tivo instead." Yes, Tivo is a great product, but to put it in car terms, if I ask for advice from current Saturn owners because I'm thinking of buying one, I'm not interested in a response that only says, "Saturns are crap - get a Porsche."

    The pro & con issues about the various DVR's that were discussed here were interesting and helpful. "Buy Tivo instead" was not.
     
  17. Bob McElfresh

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    Ahhh it was the off-topic part that bugged you. Sorry [​IMG]

    I've seen 2 reviews that directly compare the TW DVR unit against a Tivo unit, and against a Dish PVR501.

    Both of these are helpful - but only to people who already have the existing units. But then again, people who already have some other PVR are likely to be able to do a more in-depth comparison and point out subtle differences, including solving annoying problems with older units.

    Note: TW has just rolled out the DVR units in San Diego. A fellow member got one and found that they must have some firmware upgrades because problems mentioned like volume change, and scheduling all-or-nothing seems to have been fixed. Oh, and it now DOES remember where you stopped in a recorded show.
     
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    My biggest problem with the tw pvr is the fact that you can't do keyword searches. I'd gotten so used to typing in "egypt" in my 501. A few seconds later many titles with egypt as the keyword would pop up. It's gotten to the point where I might go back the dish because of this.


    Jon
     
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    Just got the phone call - my unit's on its way. An installer doesn't even come. It's just gonna show up on my doorstep and I ship the old one back in the same box. Further details as events warrant.
     

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