Amen

Discussion in 'After Hours Lounge (Off Topic)' started by stewart borland, Jan 23, 2008.

  1. stewart borland

    stewart borland Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 1999
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    The harmless joke, to brighten the after hours lounge has been removed. The intention was to raise a smile not hackles.
    I'm surprised and a little disappointed though. I'll PM it to anybody who wants a laugh.
     
  2. Jeff Gatie

    Jeff Gatie Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    15
    Uhhh, this is a violation of so many HTF rules, I don't know where to start (although starting with politics and religion is one place).
     
  3. Johnny Angell

    Johnny Angell Played With Dinosaurs Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 1998
    Messages:
    6,376
    Likes Received:
    775
    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Real Name:
    Johnny Angell
    I don't think it's such a big violation. While the setting of the joke is religious, it's not like he's advocating a particular religion. Whether you like Tony or not, no matter what your political stance, the premise of the joke is funny. After all, once any campaign is over, the promises are soon forgotten.
     
  4. stewart borland

    stewart borland Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 1999
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    Jeff - since there are no smilies in your post I guess I have to assume you are being serious?
    If my JOKE has offended you in any way then I apologise, but I have to say it is just so sad that some of us are now so politically correct that even a simple JOKE is cause for concern.

    Every other forum I have posted it on has resulted in 'rave reviews' - although other than here, none of them were outside the UK??
     
  5. Charles Guajardo

    Charles Guajardo Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 1999
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    0
    Aren't there forum rules about posting lame "jokes" in the after hours lounge?
     
  6. Jeff Gatie

    Jeff Gatie Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    15
    It didn't offend me at all. I don't take personal offense at any joke (as long as it is funny). But others do and while not overtly religious, it was certainly more than overtly political. Even though I sympathize greatly with the sentiments expressed in the joke, HTF rules ban that type of stuff (with good reason).
     
  7. stewart borland

    stewart borland Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 1999
    Messages:
    205
    Likes Received:
    0
    After Hours Lounge (96 Viewing)
    Kick back, relax, AND HAVE FUN ??

    This is more like the response I was expecting (i.e. fun) here, but this is from the PC Pro Forum in the UK -

    "I don't know what impresses me more; the joke, or the fact that you can get the internet in Glencoe."

    "Brilliant"

    "That's class."

    "I'm actually laughing out loud to myself right now heheh. Excellent stuff!"


    Perhaps I should have typed "Joke" as part of the subject line and then more serious readers could have just not opened the post.
     
  8. Jeff Gatie

    Jeff Gatie Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    15
    Stewart,

    I only informed you of the rules. I am not offended, I am not "PC" (as a matter of fact I am as anti-PC as anyone could ever get) and I am not trying to stifle your free expression or even comment on the quality or comedic value of your joke. I am just speaking from experience that jokes such as these (i.e. overtly political) have been found to be against the rules. Instead of taking my information at face value, you seem to think I'm persecuting you. I am not. Although I do find it ironic that those accusing me of being unjustifiably "offended" by a joke are the one's who are acting the most offended.

    Me offended by a satirical look at socialism? [​IMG] If you do a search for all my posts containing the word "socialism" and "socialist", you would see that me being offended by a critique of socialism is the pinnacle of humor present in this thread.
     
  9. Joseph DeMartino

    Joseph DeMartino Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Florida
    Real Name:
    Joseph DeMartino
    It is often not the joke per se but the inevitable political or religious argument that will follow certain jokes that makes it necessary to include them in the general ban on political and religious posts. This isn't some arbitrary rule, it is the fruit of long and bitter experience with the kind of flame wars this sort of thing once produced here, and observation of other boards that were either destroyed by such arguments or taken over by the to the point where only a minority of posts concerned the ostensible subject of the site. Ron and Parker decided they didn't want that here and drew a very clear line to stop it. There is no, "But it's just a joke" exception because there is always somebody who is going to be offended or use it as a jumping off point for a discussion of the serious issues being mocked and then we're off to the races.

    Hell, it is bad enough with all the pseudo-religious fights we've had around here over things like Mac vs. PC, DD vs. DTS, HD-DVD vs. Blu Ray, wooden blocks, high-priced cables and green magic markers. (Not to mention laserdisc vs. DVD, once upon a time...)

    [​IMG]

    Joe
     
  10. Jeff Gatie

    Jeff Gatie Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Aug 19, 2002
    Messages:
    6,531
    Likes Received:
    15
    Listen to Joe . . . He knows of what he speaks. After all, he's been a member since Dec. 1969. [​IMG]
     
  11. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,769
    Likes Received:
    2
    There is no exception for "jokes". The reasons have been well explained by previous posters.

    M.
     
  12. Joseph DeMartino

    Joseph DeMartino Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Florida
    Real Name:
    Joseph DeMartino

    And don't you forget it! [​IMG]

    I started when home theater consisted of a 16mm projector and screen, and we exchanged posts by mailing 8" floppys to one another so that we could load them on our IBM System 360s at work. [​IMG]

    Actually a few of us ended up having our join dates pushed back to 1969 when the Forum ate some accounts following a software upgrade a couple of years ago. Personally, I like it. I usually just tell people I'm a time traveller. [​IMG]

    Regards,

    Joe
     
  13. Dave Poehlman

    Dave Poehlman Producer

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2000
    Messages:
    3,817
    Likes Received:
    0
    Three things never to be discussed on the HTF:
    • Politics
    • Religion
    • Bose speakers
     
  14. Patrick Sun

    Patrick Sun Moderator
    Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1999
    Messages:
    38,647
    Likes Received:
    418

    Fixed the order of the list.
     
  15. Steve_Pannell

    Steve_Pannell Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2003
    Messages:
    673
    Likes Received:
    51
    Location:
    New Albany, MS
    Real Name:
    Steve
    We had a campaign rally at our church and the P.A. system had Bose speakers. Is that ok?

    I am just joking, of course. [​IMG]
     
  16. drobbins

    drobbins Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2004
    Messages:
    1,870
    Likes Received:
    1
    Real Name:
    Dave

    Hey I take offence to that!! [​IMG] My church really does have Bose speakers!![​IMG][​IMG]
     
  17. Joseph DeMartino

    Joseph DeMartino Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 1997
    Messages:
    8,313
    Likes Received:
    13
    Location:
    Florida
    Real Name:
    Joseph DeMartino
  18. Jimi C

    Jimi C Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Feb 22, 2004
    Messages:
    1,209
    Likes Received:
    1
    I dont get it.
     
  19. Johnny Angell

    Johnny Angell Played With Dinosaurs Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 1998
    Messages:
    6,376
    Likes Received:
    775
    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Real Name:
    Johnny Angell
    The joke made a comment about all politics, at least that's how I read it. I found it non-partisan and the religious aspect to it was only to serve the purpose of skewering all politicians.

    It was funny. RIP to Stewart's joke.

    Edit: But what do I know? I have Bose speakers[​IMG]
     
  20. Michael Reuben

    Michael Reuben Studio Mogul

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 1998
    Messages:
    21,769
    Likes Received:
    2
    So what? HTF Rule 4 is simple and straightforward. There is no exception for jokes, and there is no exception for "non-partisan" observations.

    We really don't have that many rules here, but the ones that we do have aren't subject to personal interpretation or "I think it should work this way". They're also not up for debate; see Rule 20.

    M.
     

Share This Page