Alien vs. Predator 2 in the works (1 Viewer)

[TravisR]

I'm sorry that my choice in what I want to watch isn't up to your lofty level. I get what you're saying but not everything I watch has be thought provoking CINEMA- sometimes I just want to see some ass kicking and Alien Vs. Predator is certainly an idea that should provide that good time (and I know it didn't the first time and it apparently hasn't the second time either).

 

[SD_Brian]

No lofty standards here; In fact I will often seek out movies that I have heard sucked just to see if they are as bad as people say they are. That's how Basic Instinct 2, I Know Who Killed Me and Alien Vs. Predator skyrocketed to the top of my Netflix queue as soon as they were released. I loves me some bad movies and yes: I AM part of the problem.

However, that being said, my personal philosophy is that if I have knowingly and willingly watched a movie that every fiber of my being told me was going to suck, I have forfeited my right to complain that the movie was a ripoff.

 

[Shad R]

I thought it was gutsy to do what they did in the scene that everyone is talking about. I was shocked. I never thought a movie would do THAT! I knew I was in for something special after the first 10 minutes. I was kind of entertained, though. The deaths where Predator is just knocking off people who are in the way was pretty entertaining, I thought. But that one scene...was just weird. Gutsy and different, broke all morals, but...and I'm gonna get slammed for this...kinda cool. just my thoughts. If No Country is a 10, this one is a 2 just for going the distance and pulling no punches.

 

[brentl]

This was the Aliens sequel I always wanted to see. Let's see how the Earth's military deals with an Alien infestation, and seeing Aliens crawling all over familiar setting were the 2 things I was looking forward to. What I didn't want was

--an incredibly inept screen play
--really REALLY poor acting, including Eric Estrada's son, kidding, but that's who he reminded me of
--way to many quick cuts, and fight scenes ala the "Bourne" movies
--dark equals scary, but darkness for no reason doesn't!
--death just for deaths sake!

They really should have slowed this flick down and made it more of a hide and seek thing, have the Predator hunt for the Aliens.

I really loved 2 things in this flick,

1. The predators night vision and the scene with the Aliens crawling all over the hospital was uber cool!
2. The pool underwear scene

My rating, from the mind of a HUGE Alien fan ......D-

Brent

 

[David_Blackwell]

I enjoyed this one better than AVP. My views may change on a repeat viewing, but my expectations were low since the first one was my least favorite of the two series.

 

[GuruAskew]

I don't think people need to "lay off Paul W.S. Anderson". He was the director and co-writer of the last movie and the last movie was terrible so most of the blame lies on his shoulders.

That said, I've always felt that a massive chunk of the blame belongs to Shane Salerno for the last one too and during this entire time when this movie has been in the works I've been saying that, I've been saying that it's good that Paul W.S. Anderson is no longer attached and the Brothers Strause are truly better directors than he is (there's more creativity in their commercials and music videos than Anderson's entire filmography) but we're still dealing with a Shane Salerno script and that right there practically guarantees that the movie will be mediocre at best. He is undeniably the worst writer working in Hollywood. It's like someone took everything wrong with screenwriting and combined it and Salerno was the result.

Anderson's unbelievably incompetent direction is inexcusable but I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that you'd probably have a better chance of making a good movie by handing Anderson a great script and forbidding him to alter it than if you gave a Salerno script to any director, however talented they might be. By burdening the Brothers Strause with Salerno's script they never had a chance to make anything good of it.

Given the R-rating (which obviously doesn't guarantee a good movie, but it's still an undeniable improvement in this case) and my belief that the directors are much more talented than Anderson I really have a hard time believing that this movie is truly worse than the last one but I'm sure the difference between the two movies is like the difference between getting kicked in the crotch by a person wearing steel-toed boots and getting kicked in the crotch by a person wearing slippers. They both suck, one of them just sucks a lot more.

I haven't seen this one yet but I'm planning on going in the next few days but when everyone was freaking out over that R-rated trailer and going crazy about the new directors I was the one saying "don't get your hopes up, it's still written by the same guy as the last one" and it looks like I was right.

 

[troy evans]

Well, I don't know what we expect from movies anymore. We all knew this was going to be shit before we ever saw the first frame. I remember when I first realized movies didn't need to make sense or be good for that matter to be successful. That film was "Charlies Angels" and to this day it is the perfect example of why no music video director should be given a big budget feature film. AVP 1 was bad, yes, bad. What the hell was an Aztec temple doing buried under the Antartic anyway? Or was it the Artic? Man the details of that BS script elude me as with others, I'm sure. I don't need to go out in the rain to know I'll get wet. I don't need to stick my hand in a fire to know I'll get burned. I don't need to go see AVP 2 to know it sucks and neither should any of you.

 

[TravisR]

I can't speak for those who didn't like it but I think people are surprised about HOW MUCH it sucks rather than that it sucks.

 

[Dennis Castro]

I liked AVP on a pure brainless fun entertainment level. It did have a certain amount of Sci-Fi-ness along with the horror.

With AVP 2 they have managed to degenerate this into "teen horror schlock" which is unfortunate. Hopefully by the way this one ended the next one will go back to a littlie more of the Sci-Fi.

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

I can't believe we all saw the same film because I thought AvPR was freakin' sweet!

This was the film that the first one wanted to be and should have been IMO and featured some of the ballsiest scenes in recent years, not since The Omen III The Final Conflict have I seen a film where babies were killed!
I admire the film for going there, it made it real for me, made it a no holds barred and intense slug-fest between these two races of creature.

I liked that the film wasn't afraid to kill off most of it's cast, even those we didn't necessarily think would get it and did (the hot blonde getting it with the Preds throwing blades was just plain awesome as was the double blowing off of the heads of those two gun store stoner dudes) and for once the teens were somewhat likable and so that made it that much more affecting for me.

I'm a Pred man myself and the Predator(s) in this one really captured what I loved about the creature in the first two Predator films, mysterious, smart and just plain fucking badass! Great touch giving him double plasma casters this time. Plus, and this is the part I just got off on, he was all alone! He took it upon himself to go after a whole army of Aliens and he took most of them out in ways that made me as a man rooting for Pred giddy.


I also loved that they went back to using an actor who had Kevin Peter Hall's body type which was tall and lean rather than the bulky football players we got in AvP. It's clear that the filmmakers were, like most, dissatisfied with the original and wanted to correct the errors and IMO they did it in spades. It sort of reminded me of a combination of Die Hard, Aliens, Dawn of the Dead and the original Predator.

I'm sorry you guys didn't enjoy but I loved it and will definitely go back again, GALAXIES better than the first one was IMO. Exciting, intense, bold and well paced, AvPR brought the joint to it's knees and reaffirmed my love of these two creatures, particularly the Predator. I went in with faint expectations and was blown away by how much I enjoyed it.

 

[Tino]

You go John!

 

[RickER]

Hey i liked Ultraviolet, so you know, someone will like a turd.

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

Wassup, Tino!

Yeah, you know what they say, SOMEONE somewhere had to like it, I guess i'm the one lol. Fine, let it bomb, that means i'll be able to get it on DVD that much sooner.

 

[TravisR]

I saw it and I thought it was terrible. I guess it's a little better than the first AVP but that's hardly an accomplishment.

Before I get crucified for complaining about it being bad, I'm just stating what I thought of the movie. I'm not surprised, I'm not mad, I'm just stating what I thought.

 

[DavidPla]

Actually, this is probably a case where you'd get crucified if you DID like it not the other way around.

 

[ChrisOlson]

Believe it or not...but the showing I was at...the audience clapped at the end! And it wasn't because the movie had ended..it was a sincere clap. I won't list my complaints as they've already been discussed, but the one thing that I really enjoyed were the references to the first 3 Alien movies..especially to Aliens (tank scene anyone?). I got a real kick out of that. It was worth my matenae price..and I'll buy the dvd. I mean come on...it's Aliens!

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

There are tons of bad movies out there that people love, this is merely one of those and no one should be crucified for that.

 

[DavidPla]

Yes they should

 

[Inspector Hammer!]

I've seen people cite the killing of babies, pregnant women and children
as the main reasons many didn't like the movie and ordinarily I would be right there with them.

However none of that bothered me because of the context in which those scenes took place, if it were a film about a serial killer doing that than I would have walked, no check that, RAN out of the theater in protest but the film is about aliens fighting other aliens and thus it removed any negative realism from those scenes for me.

Nontheless the filmmakers had tremedous balls to go there, I still can't believe that a modern film went there, never thought that would ever happen.

 

[Chad R]

You make a good point about the context of those scenes, John. However, I couldn't divorce myself from that context. To me, it wasn't aliens doing that -- it was the filmmakers. It quite frankly disgusted me in the same way torture porn does. I just couldn't consider that entertainment and if it wasn't for my 14 year-old nephew -- who asked me to take him -- sitting there enjoying it, I would have walked out. Instead, my mind checked out.