AFI 100 Years for 2007 is.... Movies (again) (1 Viewer)

[streeter]

So what are the 44 films dropped from the previous list of 400?

 

[Robert Crawford]

A good question, but something tells me that many of those dropped films are better than this new list of 44 films.

 

[Eric Peterson]

Sounds like a pretty crappy idea to me.

I was just thinking last week, that they should do a show that focuses on the smaller genres and do a maybe a series of 10 top 10s.
Musicals
Westerns
Sci-Fi
Film Noir
Bio Pics
Epics
Animated
Silent
etc...etc...

The first 100 was an interesting idea, but to rehash with 90s/00s films added is fairly pointless. I thought the purpose of such lists was to enlighten people who aren't familiar with classic films. These people already know about Gladiator & Saving Private Ryan and to add these to a list of all-time great films won't make them curious to explore other films (at least in my opinion).

I've watched most of the AFI countdowns, but unless I'm extremely bored that night (highly unlikely), I won't be watching.

 

[streeter]

And, how many of the original selection been dropped in favor of other older films?
Example: Ace in the Hole is now on the list, but it wasn't in the 1998 list.

 

[streeter]

Wow...
Okay, I've been comparing the list, and just looking at the first two letters of the alphabet, a lot has changed:

Gone:
Americanization of Emily
Anatomy of a Murder
Around the World in 80 Days
Babes in Arms
Barefoot in the Park
Bataan
Batman
Beverly Hills Cop
Boys Town
The Broadway Melody
Bullitt

New:
Ace in the Hole
Airplane!
American Beauty
As Good As It Gets
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
The Aviator
A Beautiful Mind
Being John Malkovich
Boogie Nights
Boyz N The Hood
The Breakfast Club
Brokeback Mountain
Bull Durham


I'll keep on comparin'

 

[Eric Peterson]

That's one good thing at least.

If they add "Ace in the Hole", I'm on board!

Maybe that would finally get Paramount to pull their head out of their ass.

 

[streeter]

Here it is.
Please let me know if there are any that I missed or mixed up.
Some dubious choices...

Gone:
Americanization of Emily
Anatomy of a Murder
Around the World in 80 Days
Babes in Arms
Barefoot in the Park
Bataan
Batman
Beverly Hills Cop
Boys Town
The Broadway Melody
Bullitt
The Caine Mutiny
Carmen Jones
Casino
Cavalcade
Children of a Lesser God
El Cid
Cimarron
Cleopatra
Dangerous Liaisons
David Copperfield
East of Eden
Elmer Gantry
Fantastic Voyage
Fiddler on the Roof
From Russia With Love
The Fugitive
The Goodbye Girl
The Great Ziegfeld
The Greatest Show on Earth
The Gunfighter
Hail the COnquering Hero
Hannah and Her Sisters
Hud
Imitation of Life
In Cold Blood
Intruder in the Dust
The Joy Luck Club
Judgment at Nuremburg
The Jungle Book
Lady and the Tramp
The Last Temptation of Christ
Leaving Las Vegas
Lethal Weapon
A Letter to Three Wives
Little Big Man
The Little Colonel
Local Hero
The Mark of Zorro
Medium Cool
Melvin and Howard
Missing
Mister Roberts
Morocco
El Norte
Oklahoma!
Oliver!
On the Beach
One Hundred and One Dalmations
Only Angels Have Wings
The Pink Panther
The Player
Pretty Woman
Rambling Rose
Return of the Jedi
Richard III
Run Silent, Run Deep
Salt of the Earth
Sands of Iwo Jima
The Seven Year Itch
Shadows
A Star Is Born (1937)
Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo
Tom Jones
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
Two For the Road
The Untouchables
The War of the Worlds
Within Our Gates
The Yearling

New:
Ace in the Hole
Airplane!
American Beauty
As Good As It Gets
Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery
The Aviator
A Beautiful Mind
Being John Malkovich
Boogie Nights
Boyz N The Hood
The Breakfast Club
Brokeback Mountain
Bull Durham
Chicago
A Christmas Story
Crash
Erin Brockovich
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
A Face in the Crowd
Fight Club
Finding Nemo
The Freshman
Gladiator
Good Night, and Good Luck
Good Will Hunting
The Great Dictator
The Great Escape
Groundhog Day
Halloween
Harold and Maude
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Hoosiers
Hotel Rwanda
The Hours
The Insider
Jezebel
The King and I
The King of Comedy
L.A. Confidential
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Lost in Translation
The Matrix
Memento
Mildred Pierce
Million Dollar Baby
Moulin Rouge!
Mystic River
On the Beach
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl
Porgy and Bess
The Postman Always Rings Twice
Queen Christina
Ray
Requiem for a Dream
Roman Holiday
Rushmore
Saving Private Ryan
Shakespeare in Love
Sherlock Jr.
The Shining
Shrek
Sideways
The Sixth Sense
Sleeper
Spider-Man 2
Stand By Me
Stormy Weather
The Sweet Smell of Success
There's Something About Mary
The Thing From Another World
This Is Spinal Tap
Three Kings
Titanic
Traffic
The Usual Suspects
When Harry Met Sally...
A Woman Under the Influence
Young Frankenstein


EDIT: Added the last missing film, On the Beach (1959)

 

[Mike.B]

Great, streeter. Thanks for the hard work; I look forward to seeing the whole list.

 

[streeter]

Updated the list. I think I missed one of the films that are gone. Again, let me know if I messed something up.

 

[Robert Crawford]

As much as I like Ace in the Hole/The Big Carnival, it's not as good of a film as Anatomy of a Murder which was dropped from the list.

 

[BrettB]

What was the one film? I already cut and paste the orig. list. Giving you credit of course.

 

[David (C)]

LA Confidential is the best of the eligible titles – take Out of Africa off the original list and replace it with The Color Purple – justice served.

 

[streeter]

I haven't figured that out :S
The "NEW" list has one more than the "GONE" list (80 vs. 79).
So I either missed one of the Gone films or incorrectly included one of the New ones.

 

[Eric Peterson]

While I disagree with this, the removal of "Anatomy of a Murder" is one of my only objections to the list modifications so far (One of my personal faves). That and the removal of "Only Angels Have Wings". Other than that, I think they've done a pretty fair job of cutting the fat and replacing with lean.

 

[SteveJKo]

Wow, I've got to say I'm rather appalled. There isn't one film on the "gone" list that I would trade away for crap like "There's Something About Mary".

 

[Adam_S]

And the prejudice against comedy continues. Not that I especially like There's Something About Mary, but taking a quick glance at the old films, both Boys Town and Broadway Melody are worse.

I note with great pleasure that both A Christmas Story and Stand By Me are being considered in the new list.

My guess is that they took the 80 or so titles that recieved the fewest votes in the first 100 movies and decided to drop those. That would explain why some high profile films like Anatomy of a Murder are no longer being considered. But it's good to see obscure silents (Richard III) and Shirely Temple (Little Colonel) replaced by films more likely to be voted for.

 

[SteveJKo]

We'll just have to agree to disagree.

 

[Adam_S]

well I was going by your comment and the many other comments above it that basically howled about only the comedies, like Austin Powers and Something About Mary. I think both made the AFI laughs list.

 

[george kaplan]

I think I'd be more interested in this if I had a vote.

As to the changes, 22 that are being dropped are wonderful films (e.g., Hail the Conquering Hero), while I think that highly of only 21 on the new list (e.g., Young Frankenstein). For the most part it's just trading a good film for a different good film and a bad film for a different bad film. You get rid of the worst Best Oscar pic in the first half of Academy Awards history (Cimarron) and replace it with the worst Best Oscar pic in the second half (Titanic)? Jeez.

 

[Gabriel>P]

Anatomy of Murder being taken off just makes little sense to me. Then again I love the film, and it would be on my list.