A Star Trek curiosity...

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  1. Scott D S

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    For some reason, I ventured onto the website of King Media Services, the company that produced all of the recent Star Trek DVD/Blu-Ray bonus features. Listed on their "In Development" page is something called “Star Trek Motion Pictures: Beyond the Final Frontier” which they claim will be "the very first complete history of the 'Star Trek' film franchise." Scroll to the bottom: http://www.kingmediaservices.com/In_Development.html Hmm... I wonder if this could be something for TV or if they're already producing bonus features for the inevitable (and hopefully DNR-free) Blu-Ray double-dip. IMHO, it also begs the question, "Why wasn't something like this done years ago?" The mind wanders...
     
  2. Joseph Bolus

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    There have been both printed and media (CD-ROM) versions of the "Star Trek Encyclopedia" by Michael and Denise Okuda issued over the years.


    I believe the latest one that was issued to CD-ROM covers all the TV series through the third season of Voyager as well as the first eight feature films. It notably includes a "History of James T. Kirk" video narrated by Mark Lenard. You almost need a Windows 95 "Virtual Machine" setup to view it, though, since it depends on a version of QuickTime that's no longer supported.


    The "Memory Alpha" site currently hosts a good deal of the work of the Okuda's:


    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Portal:Main


    In any event, at one time there was already a "History of the Star Trek Universe" available in multiple formats.


    BTW, the worst thing about the current Blu-rays is the fact that the Okuda Trivia Tracks produced for the DVDs are not included. IMO that omission is even worse that the excessive DNR which was present in a few of the movies.
     
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    The subject is the history of the films' productions-- not the fictional universe they inhabit.
     
  4. Joseph Bolus

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    Ohhh .... "Never mind"!
     
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    Hopefully this means we'll finally get the Director's Edition of STAR TREK: TMP in 1080p. Maybe they'll finally let Shatner tweak STV.
     
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    Unless somebody saved the original CGI animation files after Foundation Imaging closed up shop, the DE FX shots are stuck in SD resolution.
     
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    I can't imagine they weren't saved, or that Paramount doesn't own the rights to them. Even in the unlikely event they weren't saved, they could be re-done, like the episodes of the original series. As I have mentioned elsewhere, the other shows - TNG, DS9 - that were produced on video really need to be re-done for high def if Paramount ever wants them to have a chance of being discovered by a new generation. The 2002-2003 DVDs look very poor in comparison to today's high-def - or even standard def - standards.
     
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    Daren Dochterman has stated on the Trek Movie site that he has the original files for TMP and that it is possible to re-render them at HD resolution.


    Doug
     
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    That's certainly good news!
     
  10. FrancisP

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    I hae been disappointed in the Star Trek blu-ray releases. I bought ST VI and was disappointed that the extra minute that was added to the dd release was not included. I hae the director's cut for both ST-TMP and ST II and I see no reason to buy the movie only blu-ray.
     
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    There are 3 and 1/2 minutes cut from the blu-ray that were part of every previous home video release.
     
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    Which BD?
     
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    Star Trek VI. On VHS, LD, and the first non-SE DVD, the cut presented was slightly longer than the theatrical version. This was known as the "Special Home Video Version."


    For the 2-disc SE DVD, Nicholas Meyer retained those additions and made a few extra adjustments.


    For the Blu-Ray, what is presented is the original theatrical version, which had never been available on home video. It's also in 2.35:1 whereas the previous versions were opened up to 2:1 (more or less). (Trek VI was the only Trek film shot in Super 35.)
     
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    The previous home video versions of Trek 6 were 3 min and 25 seconds of added footage.


    The S.E. was 3 min and 28 seconds due to Meyer adjusting a few shots.


    The blu-ray is therefore about 3 1/2 minutes shorter than the other versions.
     
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    I've always wanted the theatrical cut (I'm not a fan of the "reveal" regarding the assassin), so I'm not unhappy to have it available (I already have the SE DVD).
     
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    I hung onto TMP, TWoK and TUC 2 disc DVD's for this reason. I'm a major completist.
     
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    I actually hung onto all of the 2-disc DVDs because of the Okuda text commentaries, which were not carried over to the Blu-rays.


    TMP and TWOK are still out front with the Blus due to the different cuts on display. TUC I'm fine to have up in the attic. I can always go get it if I need an extra dose of Colonel West...
     
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    William Shatner was recently in Tulsa and I had a chance to ask him one question. I asked him if Paramount gave him the money to complete his vision, would he do it. His response was, "Hell no"
     
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    I'm actually pretty okay with that. It would take a lot more than a bunch of rockmen chasing Kirk up a mountain to fix that movie.


    I wonder if the Beyond the Final Frontier project is something like the recent horror documentaries, like His Name Was Jason and Never Sleep Again.
     

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