A Few Words About A few words about...™ Warner Bros. Home Video & The WB Archive Collection -- in Blu-ray

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  1. JoeDoakes

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    I know its not in the highest tier of Flynn films, but I would really like to see Santa Fe Trail. Considering its never really gotten a decent home video release in any format, I think it could spur some buyer interest, if WHV can complete the restoration and the resolution of whatever legal issues are out there.
     
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    I read somewhere in this thread that the Fred and Ginger canon might be hard to deliver on Blu ray owing to the technical difficulties in just bringing them to DVD.
    Is this really the case? I understood the long delay before Warner finally giving us those fantastic DVD boxes was mainly due to the intransigence of Mrs (Robyn) Astaire rather than any actual problem with the source material.
    That issue was hopefully resolved long ago. And I don't just want Swing Time or Top Hat or Gay Divorcee .. I want them all. 'Follow the Fleet' for the fantastic story-within-the-story Casino scene, 'Flying Down to Rio' so we can all get up on those airplane wings and dance, and all the others.....
    And I want Judy Garland too ... especially 'For Me and My Gal' where, in 'After You've Gone', she grows up so suddenly, right in front of our eyes ....
     
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    A difficult title for Warner and that's all I 'll say on it.
     
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    Santa Fe Trail is one of my Flynn favorites as well. I "discovered" it back in the early 80's when AMC was actually American Movie Classics and showed classics all the time. Not sure of what makes it a difficult title as stated by Robert Crawford in his post, but I do know it's been in the public domain since 1968. Per Wikipedia:

    Santa Fe Trail entered the public in 1968, after United Artists Television – then the owners of the pre-1950 WB library (inherited from Associated Artists Productions [a.a.p.]) – failed to renew the copyright. As a result, the film has been widely available on VHS, Laserdisc and DVD, with picture and sound quality varying. A colorized version was produced in the 1980s, which was released on VHS. In the 1990s, Turner Entertainment through MGM/UA Home Video released an authorized VHS version (of higher quality than most other releases, but not utilizing the original negative); no other official release has been available on DVD or Blu-ray Disc (today, Turner's library is part of the television division of Warner Bros., the original distributor). The film is also free to watch and download on YouTube and the Internet Archive.

    There is a BD of dubious quality available via distributor "Intergroove" http://www.amazon.com/Santa-Trail-Blu-ray-Ronald-Reagan/dp/B0085X31P0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1406206758&sr=8-1&keywords=santa+fe+trail+blu+ray

    Sadly, this is one that may never get a decent release on BD (or any format). It's a shame because, although its historical accuracy is, well, highly inaccurate, it is still a grandly entertaining film with a great cast, directed by the great Michael Curtiz.

    By the way, this is one I don't have on DVD because there are so many versions available due to it's PD status. If anyone would care to share an opinion on the "best" DVD version, I'd love to add this one to my collection. Thanks in advance.
     
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    2014 isn't over, like I said, first surprise Christmas in Connecticut , I can do with some holiday films, ;)
     
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    It Happened on 5th Avenue would be nice.
     
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    Robyn Astaire has no say on the films. The films have always belonged to the studio(s). Period. However she does have rights to compensation for the use of Astaire's image in material outside the films. This would include clips from the films, rehearsal footage, outtakes, cut numbers, etc. Pretty much what we look for as "extras". For instance, I've seen a bootleg of "Me and the Ghost Upstaires" which was cut from Second Chorus that will probably never be on an official release.

    The problem with the classic RKO Astaire films is the fact that they were made at RKO. The history of that studio is a nightmare with it floating in and out of Howard Hughes's control. The library is in good hands now but I don't believe the film elements and negatives were vaulted with anything near the care of MGM or Warners.
     
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    And now...."A Christmas Carol" (1938) to be released the same day!

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    Hasn't Warners dealt and released a few of their public domain films in the past? Wasn't one of their big musicals PD? I think it was TILL THE CLOUDS ROLL BY. No blu ray, but a nice standard DVD. And I think at least one of the Nancy Drew's in the Archive is PD. I would settle for a nice remaster from fine grain or negative on SANTE FE TRAIL released on the Archive. But, of course, Blu would be better.
     
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    What about the rest of the WB Hitchcock films? I would love to see I Confess, Stage Fright, The Wrong Man, etc...
     
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    We're on page 8 of a thread started the week James Garner died and there is no mention of Victor/Victoria.

    I am very happy about this general update, but I hope I can count on seeing James Garner and Dame Julie Andrews on Blu-ray in the last truly exceptional Blake Edwards film.

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    ROYAL WEDDING was another pd title they put out.
     
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    Yes, and "Nancy Drew, Reporter" is the one PD 'Nancy Drew' title. It looked very decent when Warners finally issued their own print in the 4-film "Nancy Drew" collection.
     
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    I watched my DVD of Wait Until Dark this afternoon. While most of the movie looks fine, there certainly are specks and curious anomalies that crop up here and there throughout the presentation. I guess this one isn't ready for Blu-ray yet, sad to say. I sure do love it.
     
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    It's funny, Matt, we're usually very sympatico in terms of tastes but that is one I just don't like at all. It seems so sadistic to me to watch Audrey get what amounts to being tortured for two hours. It makes me uncomfortable. It's strange because people often say the same thing about ROSEMARY'S BABY yet that's one I love, go figure! ;)
     
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    That's because you love Audrey and hate Mia!
     
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    Hahahah.......NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I love BOTH of those ladies Mr. Probst!

    (I'm sure it's because WAIT UNTIL DARK suffers from "Lack of Ruth Gordon Syndrome") :wub:

    "She din't jump out no windah...we loved huh like ah own dawtah!"
     
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    "Oh, are ya preg-a-nant?" :lol:
     
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    I've never enjoyed "Wait Until Dark" primarily because I hate seeing Audrey, who I adore, being terrorised. I know its "only a movie" but I just cannot stomach it, I'm afraid.
     
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