A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Last of the Mohicans -- in Blu-ray

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  1. Paul Rossen

    Paul Rossen Supporting Actor

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    The Blu-ray is too dark. It did not look like this upon theatrical release. The film was recently shown on Cable HD and it looked fine. Go figure?
     
  2. Richard--W

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    Could it be some kind of malfunctioning copyguard or macrovision?
     
  3. Robert Crawford

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    Since, this is one of my favorite films of all-time, I'm going to revisit it tonight on my new Panasonic TCP65VT50 plasma display in a darken room. I'll report back if my thoughts on this BD have changed with this new display.

    I just noticed that this BD is 8.99 at Amazon.




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  4. Dave H

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    Great display you have there! Getting it pro-cal'd?
     
  5. Richard--W

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    Let us know what you think.
    I'm convinced. The light and dark values are way out of proportion. This looks like an activated macrovision run amuck. There is a real possibility that some of the blu-rays were defective when they left the factory, or all of them.
    Before anyone asks the blu-ray player is plugged directly into the Sony Bravia via hdmi cable. No inbetween units.
     
  6. MattAlbie60

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    I was very pleasantly surprised when I found it for $3 at Walmart on Black Friday.
     
  7. Walter Kittel

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    I'm pretty sure that Macrovision only applies to Standard Definition Analog outputs and has no presence in High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP).
    - Walter.
     
  8. Richard--W

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    Then the transfer went wrong in the telecine stage.
     
  9. Worth

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    I haven't seen the Mohicans disc, but I have seen a handful of blu-rays that were mastered with the wrong black level - 7.5IRE rather than 0IRE. But this results in the disc being too bright, not too dark.
     
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    I thought this release was a little bit green and a little bit dark, but overall I felt it closely resembled my cinema viewing experience of long ago...It's still one of my favorite films of all time. It's right up there with Lawrence of Arabia, Man 2, or many, many, many other titles of the first rank.
     
  11. Robert Crawford

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    I played the disc in its entirety while utilizing the THX Cinema setting on my display and thought the disc looked beautiful and had no issues with it being too dark. I'm afraid this darkness issue will remain unresolved between those that disagree with that issue.






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  12. Robert Crawford

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    You betcha!






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  13. Steen DK

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    Ditto. My projector is calibrated and other BDs look fine. This one is just absurdly dark. Scenes that clearly take place in sunlight (judging from shadows) look more like dusk. Scenes that take place at night are practically unviewable and often have loads of black crush. (I could prove this with screen caps, but I'd better not go down that route. :P )
     
  14. JoshZ

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    Just curious, how many are watching this on displays with adaptive contrast features active? Could that be skewing the results?
    (I haven't watched the disc myself. Just throwing out a theory.)
     
  15. Richard--W

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    Good question.
    In my case, the answer is no.
     
  16. Steen DK

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    Same here.
     
  17. RobHam

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    Watched the Region B release of this tonight on an ISF calibrated panel.
    Way too dark - to the point of not being watchable. Switching on the "dynamic contrast" actually helped - never had to do that before with any movie.
    I appreciate low light movies - most of Peter Hyams films are like this, but this was the worst I've ever experienced.
    I have the UK theatrical release DVD - the next time I want to watch this, it will be via the DVD and not the BD.
    Although I was well warned in advance - still disappointed.
     
  18. Joe Bernardi

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    I watched the Blu-ray on my 120" projector screen. I love it the movie and the Blu-ray! It's one of my favorite owned movies. I have no complaints about it being too dark.
    I'll happily watch it many times in the future.
     
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    I'm kinda surprised to see the return of the 'it's too dark/no it's not' controversy re LOTM. I thought it too dark as well, and it is the only title that causes me to change an adjustment on my TV. I don't remember if the Blu-ray looks the way the film looked when I saw it in the theater; but I doubt there would have been a controversy if Mann were not such an inveterate post-release tweaker.
     
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    The blu-ray is too dark.
     

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