A Few Words About A few words about...™ The Grifters -- in Blu-ray

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  1. Robert Harris

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    Stephen Frears' first production in the Colonies, The Grifters (1990), arrives on Blu-ray here (it's been out in the UK for a while) from Echo Bridge's Miramax collection, in decent form. Derived from an IP, this bright, sunlit, anti-noir noir, has nicely rendered textures for a Blu-ray, while not being perfect. While I've complained about some of the Olive releases for needed a bit of digital cleaning, The Grifters, could use at least a bit. Occasional emulsions scratches could have easily been cleaned up to achieve a more cohesive image. Emulsion scratches do not count towards a cinema-like look. I love the characters in this film, and the way that they're played with precision. Stephen Tobolowsky and Henry Jones are stand-outs in the supporting cast. A very nice film, and a decent Blu-ray. Image - 3.5 Audio - 4 (2.0 stereo, presumably Dolby encoded and the basis of the SVA track) RAH
     
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    That guy is one of my all time favorite character actors. So many great scene stealing roles in Seinfeld, Memento, Curb Your Enthusiasm, Deadwood, etc.
     
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    For the Tobolowsky fans in the NYC area, the actor / writer will be in the house, literally, next week at 92Y Tribeca for a screening of GROUNDHOG DAY.
     
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    Robert do you own the region locked UK BLU?if so how does it compare?
     
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    That...would...be...so...cool.
     
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    When I saw The Grifters in the theater, the projectionist didn't matte it correctly, and I frequently saw the boom mic over the heads of the actors. Talk about taking one out of the realm of the movie. Years later seeing it on video, I felt like I was seeing it for the first time. Terrific movie!
     
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    MUST be matted 1.85. Strangely, the main is 1.66. Wondering if theatrically, some projectionists would do a quick aperture swap after MT?
    Odd.
    RAH
     
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    Were there any other typographic misadventures beyond the alternate spelling of Mr. "Painter"?
     
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    In case the message isn't clear, The Grifters is a fantastic movie, especially if you like noir, neo-noir, superb acting, razor-sharp storytelling, ruthless survivors, sympathetic rubes, and Anjelica Huston as the warmest, most loving mother a boy could hope for.
     
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    Isn't she though?:P I love this film. It was a fixture on HBO back when, and I watched it many times. I can't wait to see it on Blu-Ray.
     
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    Is the Image Quality significantly better than that of the late '90s DVD? While the BD is very cheap, is it worth replacing the original DVD?
     
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    Amazon finally has this in stock for $4.99.
     
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    I'd save the money, and spend it on something else. That $5 can be used toward a Blu-ray that hasn't been on DVD.

    Not into double, triple dipping.

    RAH
     
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    Amazon is finally shipping this to me with my preorder price of $4.99But they are now charging $13.49 for it.I haven't seen this movie since it's laserdisc days.
     
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    Finally had an excuse to watch this tonight. Great credits. :)

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    Unfortunately, I think RAH's 3.5 score for video is pretty generous. I wouldn't go above 2.5. Detail is fairly decent, but (as he noted) there are a lot of dirt and scratches on the source, and the image is plagued by bad scanner noise and compression problems.

    I'm glad I only paid $5 for it, because it looks like a $5 disc. Poor treatment for a great movie.

    I'd be curious to find out if the Region B edition from Studio Canal is any better.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Grifters-Blu-ray-John-Cusack/dp/B002BD9DP2
     
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    That's the one I have. Pretty sure it is the same as the older one except this time put out through Lionsgate with a digital copy included.
     
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    This movie deserves a much better transfer then it has been given in the past, but I'm afraid were in for more of the same.
     
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    At $10, I'm tempted to buy, but what's the expert opinion here of the likelihood that this is a different/better transfer than the previous blu-ray release (which I already own)?
     

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