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Paul....many thanks for your comments. Yes, I did do that. As I said, eventually it turned into an astonishing image.....BUT......it still has too much copper tone for my taste.
Interestingly, in the supplements they have a variety of trailers from 1939 onward. We see the same scenes over and over again through the years and they are ALL different. In some there IS that coppery "Technicolor Tan" look...but in others the skin tones are natural and the tonal range in scenes like the "hat scene" and the "morning after the funeral sequence" is wide and looks very beautiful. In this version they are VERY dark, no matter how you set it. The last release was all golden and we were told that this was the way Selznick wanted it. Allegedly, he hated the 1947 and 1954 releases which featured a brighter and more lush type of color. Through a friend of mine who is friendly with Danny Selznick...I've heard that Danny has been VERY unhappy with WB's releases. Don't know the full story or if it has anything to do with the color.
As others, including Mr. Harris, have pointed out....we all fight memory, faulty or not. I saw the original but don't remember it (was 6 at the time) but I DID see the 1947 and subsequent releases. When I look at the trailers I see the GWTW that I loved....bright and beautiful in even the scenes with chiarascuro lighting. In those releases through much of its history the skin tones have been much more natural. So I am fighting that fact......copper/ruddy skin tones are NOT natural to me and I never have liked the idea of the overuse of that look to convey that a film is set in the past. I'm not speaking against a pastel look, such as the British often used, but gosh, if a film is set in 1862, we KNOW it is in the past. We don't need an antiquated look. I know....I know.....I'm being picky.....and foolish.....BUT......I maintain that when we see a film for the first time....its look is embedded in our brains as the "correct" look so that any subsequent variance from that will look wrong. Perhaps....if they could drain out the comic book color from WEST SIDE STORY, Sondheim and Laurents (and me...hehe) would like it better....but the comic book look will remain the "correct" look for me because that was the way it WAS. For me, SOUND OF MUSIC has yet to be done completely right. At the Rivoli in NYC it was much brighter and glowing than the most recent release which seemed to have too much of a black and white underlying image.
All of this being said.....I DO recognize that when you set the controls to your INDIVIDUAL satisfaction.....this is an ASTONISHINGLY beautiful representation. Is it MY GWTW? No! And I absolutely GUARANTEE you that the NEXT release will be DIFFERENT from this one. Every single release/restoration is different from the one before. Instead of 19 hours of extras....why not a box set with all the differing prints? Or...why not get the Chinese (who have our Technicolor equipment, from what I've read in years past) to do a print? They have a sense of color that is usually quite lovely....let's see what THEY can do with it.
But, thank you, Paul, for your kind comment. I deeply appreciate it.
Interestingly, in the supplements they have a variety of trailers from 1939 onward. We see the same scenes over and over again through the years and they are ALL different. In some there IS that coppery "Technicolor Tan" look...but in others the skin tones are natural and the tonal range in scenes like the "hat scene" and the "morning after the funeral sequence" is wide and looks very beautiful. In this version they are VERY dark, no matter how you set it. The last release was all golden and we were told that this was the way Selznick wanted it. Allegedly, he hated the 1947 and 1954 releases which featured a brighter and more lush type of color. Through a friend of mine who is friendly with Danny Selznick...I've heard that Danny has been VERY unhappy with WB's releases. Don't know the full story or if it has anything to do with the color.
As others, including Mr. Harris, have pointed out....we all fight memory, faulty or not. I saw the original but don't remember it (was 6 at the time) but I DID see the 1947 and subsequent releases. When I look at the trailers I see the GWTW that I loved....bright and beautiful in even the scenes with chiarascuro lighting. In those releases through much of its history the skin tones have been much more natural. So I am fighting that fact......copper/ruddy skin tones are NOT natural to me and I never have liked the idea of the overuse of that look to convey that a film is set in the past. I'm not speaking against a pastel look, such as the British often used, but gosh, if a film is set in 1862, we KNOW it is in the past. We don't need an antiquated look. I know....I know.....I'm being picky.....and foolish.....BUT......I maintain that when we see a film for the first time....its look is embedded in our brains as the "correct" look so that any subsequent variance from that will look wrong. Perhaps....if they could drain out the comic book color from WEST SIDE STORY, Sondheim and Laurents (and me...hehe) would like it better....but the comic book look will remain the "correct" look for me because that was the way it WAS. For me, SOUND OF MUSIC has yet to be done completely right. At the Rivoli in NYC it was much brighter and glowing than the most recent release which seemed to have too much of a black and white underlying image.
All of this being said.....I DO recognize that when you set the controls to your INDIVIDUAL satisfaction.....this is an ASTONISHINGLY beautiful representation. Is it MY GWTW? No! And I absolutely GUARANTEE you that the NEXT release will be DIFFERENT from this one. Every single release/restoration is different from the one before. Instead of 19 hours of extras....why not a box set with all the differing prints? Or...why not get the Chinese (who have our Technicolor equipment, from what I've read in years past) to do a print? They have a sense of color that is usually quite lovely....let's see what THEY can do with it.
But, thank you, Paul, for your kind comment. I deeply appreciate it.