A Few Words About A few words about...™ Deliverance -- in BD & HD

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  1. Stephen_J_H

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    I'd like to know about this too, since there's an indication in this thread that Deliverance is a "flashed" film.
     
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    This might very well be true as this film was shot by Vilmos Zsigmond who used flashing on McCabe & Mrs. Miller the same year. However the flashing would effect the original negative I believe so the effect should be visible in any version of the film.
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    I won't say that Vilmos supervised the new Deliverance transfer, but it is likely, seeing as he had worked with Warner before.
     
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    Its possible that they used digital grading to "correct" the flashing. They may have thought that the original film was fading or something. But if they used their brains at all they should be able to tell that the film was flashed.
    By the way the negative is flashed before the film is run through the camera.
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    Zsigmond: "One day, John Boorman accidentally wandered into the projection room at the lab, and he was intrigued by the look [of McCabe...]. He contacted me about working with him on a film called Deliverance. It was a totally different kind of a movie. But we did desaturate the film. We decided this film needed more contrast and a little bit of a black and whitish look. Since we were working with Technicolor, we used the dye transfer technique. They made three color matrices and then a fourth black-and-white one. That gave us more control over the blacks and whites. We decided certain scenes would have 10, 15 or 20 percent more black and white, and we were able to manipulate the look and mood of the movie that way."
     
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    Never mind, answered my own question.
     
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    Thanks Mr. Harris---I was beginning to think my memories were getting desaturated! I knew I was right about the prints I saw first run.
     
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    Hm. Interesting :)


    Imdb trivia: 'Much of the film had to have its color desaturated as the river simply looked too pretty.'

    "The film's downbeat mood is sustained in its cinematography as well as its dramaturgy. Seeking to lend what he called an "ominous quality" to the "pleasant and restful" greens and blues of sky, river and trees, Boorman (in conjunction with Technicolor) developed a new color desaturation technique for Deliverance. The result is a film shot in threatening grey-greens, not so much washed-out as evacuated of conventionally pretty nature imagery. Although the big Panavision images of river, cliffs, and forest are impressive enough (there are some breath-taking moving compositions of the two canoes, exploiting both the format and the long lens's flattened perspective) the desaturated color always ensures that they do not become merely picturesque. As befits a story of liberal complacency confronted by brutal antagonism, it is the struggle to survive that predominates, the big screen used more to document that in close-up than to celebrate the pictorial splendours of the setting.

    Read more: http://www.filmreference.com/Films-Dah-Deu/Deliverance.html#ixzz2cnwdXRrC



    As was 'the ending of Taxi Driver"; color desaturation as a compromise in bloodiness apparently (audio commmentary).

    Later, the brown-discolored look of 70's movies was due to deterioration - need for restoration. Digital times have a great future (4 and 8k..) !

    Also, perhaps 'independent cinema' used faster film and cheaper production - i'd expect a difference with Technicolor studio productions :)
     
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