2013-14 Hot Stove League

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  1. Patrick_S

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    Lots of changes have already happened so it is time to start the Hot Stove thread.
     
  2. Dennis Nicholls

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    I came here to see if Mike had started up this thread, but I see Patrick beat him to it this year. How's the hot stove in upstate NY these days?
     
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    I really hope that the Red Sox sign Ellsbury to a long-term contract. I don't want to see him in either a Seattle or Texas uniform next year.Mike,Any current news on this that you're aware of?
     
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    Haven't really heard much substantive news on Ells.

    He developed a bit of a reputation as a gamer this year (something which had eluded him in past seasons when he had been hurt and fallen off the face of the earth). This year he had a foot fracture that he played with (which had actually cost him several games near the end of the regular season). And, come to find out last night, he was playing most of the post-season with a badly bruised, swollen hand.

    He is a huge talent which any team would be lucky to have at the top of the lineup. His presence there would instantly make you a better team.

    He's got the speed. He has shown flashes of power. I personally witnessed him hitting two home runs in one game at Camden Yards a couple of years ago. And he should have won the Gold Glove as AL centerfielder this year. And he hits for average. A 5-tool player.

    Which is why I would love to see his current team re-sign him! :D

    Here's one of those two homeruns I saw!

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    And don't think the guy ain't marketable, too!

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    And, of course, Ells is a Boras client.

    That means little to no chance of any hometown discount. But maybe Ellsbury might realize he'd have a better chance of being part of a championship team in Boston than, say, Seattle.
     
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    At least two other teams will offer him longer deals than the Sox will, especially after what happened with all their short-term signings this year.

    It comes down to money. . .I'm not too hopeful.
     
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    Back to reality, the Sox have apparently spoken with the Salty camp.
     
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    It's kind of irritating, but I will begrudgingly acknowledge that it's probably for the best. Assuming one of those kids is ready to go in another year!

    I found an article online from February in which Jake Peavy spoke well of Pierzynski. That made me feel better.
     
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    Aaron,I don't necessarily like seeing Salty go, though. He had some really timely hits, and I felt fairly confident whenever he came to the plate in a tight situation. Hopefully Pierzynski will pan out nicely.
     
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    My understanding is that while their numbers from last year were pretty similar, Salty wanted more years than the Sox were willing to give (because of the youngsters). And they could get Pierzynski for just one year. So, AJ it is.

    Certainly not my first choice. But I was given some peace of mind when I read this piece by Chad Finn of the Boston Globe today. Here's an excerpt:
     
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    And Jacoby Ellsbury will be wearing pinstripes for the next seven years. The contract will be worth 153-million dollars.

    Gotta admit. I think this is a very good move for the Yanks...even though they have issues at all other positions, they have made themselves a much better ballclub by snatching up Jacoby.
     
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    Oh...I'm quite unhappy about it...

    This will be worse than the Damon situation was. Some people think it will be good for the "rivalry." I think it will be quite negative.
     
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    And, Ellsbury is a huge loss for the Sox.

    I don't know why they couldn't have paid him $153-million over seven years...
     
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    The Yankees are willing to commit to paying for a few bad years later to get a few good years now, but the Sox aren't.

    I guess they had enough of the overpaid years when a declining Jim Rice was the highest-paid player in the game. :)

    I read an article on a Yankees blog this morning that went into detail about Ellsbury not being "injury-prone." Nearly all of his missed time has been a result of freak collisions with other players, not breakdown-type injuries.
     
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    Right. I haven't been one to think of Ellsbury as being one of those injury-prone players.

    It looks like the Mariners have decided to overpay on Robinson Cano's services. (As a Sox fan, this makes me feel a lot less bad about the Ellsbury signing.) Ten years, $240-million. That's too much for too long.

    My son the Yankee fan wrote me, "at that price, they can have him."
     
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    Also, the Yanks sign Kuroda to a one year $16-million deal.

    And Granderson goes to the Mets.
     
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    I just read one tweet, "If Cano didn't hustle BEFORE $240-Million, imagine after." :laugh:
     

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