LeoA
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Is there any hope for Sea Hunt? Gotten addicted to this show on This TV and the prints they're showing look pristine. Would like season sets of this program.
Well this is just my theory but I think the reason Melrose was stalled had more to do with the 2009 revival series. I think one half-season came out while the revival series was on the air, and perhaps they felt it was confusing to consumers to suddenly see dvds of 12 year old episodes. Or something like that. But the fact that season six just barely came out a couple months ago makes me think that Paramount has a definite endgame in mind for the rest of the series. And I was a big fan of MP and hope to see it to its conclusion. Maybe it's just my personal hope for that show on dvd that's clouding my logic, but then again--I have no bloody clue why CBS/Paramount does what it does in terms of its weird release schedules!!! Oh, and I found this on amazon--does anyone know the story about this listing? This could just be fan-made box cover art...but it's actually very, very good if that is the case! http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001JAHR38Stephen Wight said:Yeah,I know more Dynasty was released over the Summer. I based my question on the fact that there was a two year gap between the releases of Melrose Place and,I believe,there was also a similar sized gap between the releases for Dynasty,as well. The only conclusion I could come to for why that was is because they weren't selling. If I'm wrong,I stand corrected.
Originally Posted by Jack P
Where we're also in disagreement is the real value of pressed DVD releases to DVD-R. Honestly, there's not much of a meaningful difference for me. Yes, I know there was that scare earlier this year about Warner Archive discs going bad after a while but I have found that of many movie purchases only one was bad, and also they have stepped up to dual layered discs now for these releases which makes them more convenient than the MGM DVD-Rs were. All I can say is that the worst headaches I ever got in TV on DVD releases came from pressed DVD-18s from Universal and nothing's ever happened from Warner to make me think like I'm revisiting those days.
I'm also unconvinced their particular price scale is exceptionally out of line. It's lower than the MGM ones were and I think all we're seeing is the fact that we have few outlets to get them at the deep discount rates we're used to seeing. But then again, most of these titles do turn up from Amazon vendors for a fairly lower rate eventually that are in line with any CBS/Paramount release marked down by $10 so I don't see this as a case of them "milking us for more" or that there isn't any way to get them at a lower price.
A perfect example, A few weeks ago I was at Sam's and picked up Murder One, a Bochco series from the mid-90's that only went two seasons. I had never seen it before but noticed that reviews indicated it was pretty good. So at $16 a season I thought it worth the gamble knowing I could probably get close to half that back in trade-in if it didn't work out. In the end, I enjoyed it very much and I'm happy to now include it in my collection. The power in invoking the "blind-buy" is all in the price. People like to point to Perry Mason as an example of a higher priced pressed disk for comparison, but even it experiences 50% discounts from time to time to attract new viewers. I'm not against the MOD program. It is just that I have to know I really-really want the title in order to purchase at its pricing model. No blind buys at this price point for me.Gary OS said:I think it was Brad who mentioned some time ago that the pricing structure for the Archives makes it less likely for people to blind buy titles. I know I feel that way. When I can get a title at a nice discount I'm much more apt to try a series out that I'm not sure about. But if I'm having to pay $70 or more a season for a series I'm not sure about it's unlikely that I'll blind buy it.
Of course, for those folks with no FIOS/cable (and a big chunk of the country is in that boat), a conversion to streaming simply means this: They'll never sell us a damn thing because the bandwidth isn't there, and most likely never will be. That doesn't even doesn't begin to consider the issue of overall bandwidth. And don't talk about Wi-Fi as a solution. That's what I'm reduced to, and even low-rez stops every 30 seconds to load some more. As for my wish TV wish list for 2012, it's only one: Harry O. Don't even care if it's MOD. I'll pay the price for it. So far, Warner Archive hasn't released any series that I'd buy. The FBI is the closest, but still a no-go. My other two, Slattery's People and The Great Adventure, I'm not foolish enough to think will ever come out in any form. So give me Harry O and I'll be happy.Jeff Willis said:Quote:
100% agree. I'm guessing that the major studios are happy about the streaming trend as it returns full control to them, or their perception of that.
I agree with all of this, Brad. Well said. I have also had problems with DVD 18s, but it was only on an inferior region free Philips player that I bought as a cheap temp before venturing to Blu. It was in one of the Universal multi-disc Legacy horror sets and it irritated me enough to seek out the old double feature single sided DVDs that Universal had previously released of the same films. I just couldn't trust that it wouldn't happen again. Perhaps now with my Panasonic Blu player and an Oppo SD player, I wouldn't have the same problems. But I will say that the Oppo I have can be fussy with DVD-Rs and at times not even register that a DVD is in the drive. I play most of my DVD-Rs through my Blu player now, which hasn't given me much trouble with anything.smithb said:Glen, Good points. For me, I just work within the environment that is available. If this was back in the day when VHS was dominate, I would probably have a cabinet of tapes, only fewer because pricing wouldn't have allowed the type of collection I have now on DVD. If MOD replaces pressed disks and are controlled by the studios then that is what I will work with. Same being true with streaming. Where things get a bit tricky is when you have overlap. Right now we still have pressed disks with competitve pricing, along with the newer streaming and MOD programs. Now the pressed disk model with vendor pricing competition may be on the way out. But until it is, and while there are desired titles within that model, it will remain the avenue of choice for many of us. After that it comes down to adjusting to change or being happy with what one has. Luckily, this run has built up quite a few collection so it is quite possible for some to just stand pat. for the most part. .
Hennesey is a Screen Gems/Columbia/Sony Property Stoney Burke is United Artist - MGM/UA Saints and Sinners is Four Star/20th Century Fox Unlikely these will be released,or licensed out, anytime soon.Richard V said:I predict that TMG will continue to delight classic TV fans with releases of many more rare shows such as Stoney Burke, Saints and Sinners, the Gallant Men, and Hennesey. Then again I could be wrong. BTW, I just pulled those shows outta my behind. I don't have any info that those shows will ever actually see the light of day.
I'm not Gary, but I discovered years ago that things like season 1 of Adam-12 played just fine in my Playstation 3. They gave me nothing but issues in my standalone DVD players, my DVD/VHS recorders, my DVD computer drives, and on other game consoles like my Playstation 2. But for some unknown reason, they'd play problem free in my Playstation 3.Jack P said:Gary, I'd sure like to know what player you were using because the number of aggravating stories those DVD-18s gave me on four different players and my computer would make your head spin.
I suppose it depends on what motivates the individual to make a purchase. Many DVD "collectors" don't even have time to watch all the shows they buy, so downloading is going to hold less allure when you won't have something in your hands to hold. But if you just want to watch the show, when and wherever you desire, it really makes very little difference what format the media is in. I also collect vinyl records, and will be the first to admit that this is a separate and entirely different hobby that just listening to music. People do both, and should be free to choose the path they desire.HenryDuBrow said:Streaming or downloading sounds like a bad case of 'look what we can do technically', and about as appealing to me as bathing in lava, it seems to be more of an attraction to 20-somethings and even younger. Since we're not all robots yet, I want the product in my hand for my player, please.
Similar experiences here too, for various Universal manufactured dvds. They're all across the board, with no rhyme or reason. (For instance). One of my Knight Rider season 3 disks, freezes on all on my stand alone dvd players. But it rips fine without any problems from my computer dvd drive. One of my Law and Order: Criminal Intent season 5 disks, freezes on all my stand alone dvd players and even the XBox 360. But it rips fine on my computer dvd drive. One of my Miami Vice season 2 disks, freezes on the computer dvd drive (whether watching or ripping). But it plays fine on the stand alone dvd players. (Similar story with one of my The A-Team season 4 disks). On one of my Baretta season 1 disks, it freezes with two episodes being literally unwatchable on all my stand alone dvd players and the computer dvd drive. But it plays almost fine on my XBox 360 console. On the XBox 360, it only freezes at around the dual-disk layer transition. (One can fast forward or rewind on the XBox 360 to get around the freeze point, and missing around 2 or 3 seconds of video). This was my third copy of Baretta season 1, after two previous exchanges from the store. It seems like it freezes at almost the same spot on disk 1. (Perhaps the store just got a bad batch, all with a very similar problem?) Then again, I only paid 9 dollars for the dvd set brand new (two weeks ago). Not going to complain too much about a dvd which I effectively paid 3 dollars for.LeoAmes said:I'm not Gary, but I discovered years ago that things like season 1 of Adam-12 played just fine in my Playstation 3. They gave me nothing but issues in my standalone DVD players, my DVD/VHS recorders, my DVD computer drives, and on other game consoles like my Playstation 2. But for some unknown reason, they'd play problem free in my Playstation 3.