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  1. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    The old BenQ is sitting on a shelf. The 12000 will be sitting on a significantly bigger, sturdier shelf. I broke the wall down between the theater room and the guest bedroom closet behind it to expand the theater space. However, the sliding closet doors in the guest bedroom are still there. We...
  2. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    The LS12000 it is! I ordered it and it will ship later today. Thanks all for your help. It was what I wanted to begin with, but was not sure I wanted to spend that much money presently with all the other expenses I noted in an earlier post. But yes, It'll give me likely about 10ish years of...
  3. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Thanks again for your thoughts replies. I definitely want the 12000. I think it's best for all reasons you stated. I was just trying to figure out whether or not that new price on the 11000 (1500 less) made it a good deal. But I think the 12000 is probably better for me for the long term. I'll...
  4. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    I can afford $5k, but I was hoping not to spend that much since I was upgrading other bits of the system as well, and there's lots of other life-stuff going on. Do you feel the LS12000 is worth the extra $1500? The LS just dropped that extra $500 today. I just don't know if there's a giant leap...
  5. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Long story short - my 5050 projector order was cancelled by best buy. It seems to be way out of stock. Not on Amazon either. The LS11000 dropped to $3500. So - 11000 or do I bite the bullet and grab the 12000? I mean, 1500 is still a lot of money. Is the 12000 worth the extra $? Or will I love...
  6. JasonRoer

    *** 3rd Annual HTF Noirvember Movie Challenge***

    Ha! I was watching this last night for a bit. I'm about halfway through, I think.
  7. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Agreed. This will be my 3rd Marantz receiver in a row. I absolutely love the sound.
  8. JasonRoer

    *** 3rd Annual HTF Noirvember Movie Challenge***

    Thanks for the offer. Very kind. I just ended up posting in the proper place. I received some wonderful advice to balance budget and product. Thanks again!
  9. JasonRoer

    *** 3rd Annual HTF Noirvember Movie Challenge***

    Well, life has just been far too busy these days with family around Thanksgiving, shifts at the hospital with an overwhelming amount of paperwork (their tends to be a general decompensation of mental health symptomatology for many patients during the holiday season), and designing the new home...
  10. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Sheesh. So after spending an hour trying to get FedEx to send me an activation code for FedEx delivery manager and failing, as well as attempting to speak with an honest-to-goodness human being on their "customer support" line, I called accessories4less and the fine gentleman there said, no...
  11. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Thank you so much for all the info! I'm going to order the receiver now and sign up with the FedEx delivery manager. Hopefully, by Friday Dec 8th, all of the items will be in and by that Sunday, we'll be watching on the whole new system!
  12. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Well, the projector and surround speakers have been purchased, and now I wait until tomorrow morning to hopefully find a solution for the receiver to get to me. Here's hoping there is still one in stock. There wasn't any place in the order form that allowed for the package to be sent to a...
  13. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Oh well. That's too bad. We just moved so we don't know our neighbors well, but I know they both work. Sending to my work isn't an option. I'll ask them about the pick up locations. Hopefully that will be an option. Otherwise, I may just have to wait until she gets back from the trip and hope...
  14. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Question - my wife is going to be out of town for the entire week of the estimated date of delivery for the refurbished Cinema 50. The only day I'm off from work that week is Weds (2 days after the estimated date). I will call them on Monday and see if they can deliver on a specific date or if I...
  15. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Yeah - and on that note - my wife is out of town on the estimated date of arrival of the receiver from accessories4less. She leaves the day before that estimated date (Dec 4), and doesn't come back for a week. So I didn't make the purchase yet. I have to wait until this Monday morning to call...
  16. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Boo. The soonest I can pick up the 5050ub is Friday December 8th. I spoke with a fella and asked about the LS12000 - I can get that on December 1st. Talk about impatience if I was willing to spend 2X the cost for a projector just to save 7 days!
  17. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Great. Thank you so much for your time! Much appreciated. I'll look into them. I will be able to do in-ceiling, as I'm adding a faux beam around the location I'd add the ceiling speakers. So that will work well.
  18. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    And I doubt my aging eyes could even tell what 8K looks like. Heck, my wife's eyes are going too, which is the only reason she still finds me attractive.
  19. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Sounds good. Any thoughts on good surrounds that won't break the bank? I'll need 6 if I'm getting the 50, as my current setup is a 5.1 and the rear speakers are not good. For reference, I have B+Ws up front.
  20. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Do you feel it is worth tossing in an extra $500 to get the refurbed Cinema 50 if I eventually want the 50 anyway? I won't really need that kind of power for 5 years, but it seems that $500 isn't a heck of a lot if the longevity of the product would be there.
  21. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Well Jeez, with that kind of endorsement! I'll talk it over with my wife when I get home. I mean, with that 5 year warranty, I imagine she'd overlook the refurb thing. I wonder how fast they can get it to me. It says ships within 1-2 business days. My wife is going to Hawaii with her friends...
  22. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    As I stated in my reply to Josh, I've had some fantastic refurbs, but a couple clunkers as well. So I'm not sure what to do on that front. My wife has had bad luck with refurbs, so I know what she'd say. As for subs. Yes, I do intend to eventually upgrade. SVS was on the shortlist. And yes, I...
  23. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    I'll have to give it a look. I'm sort of on the fence about refurbed products. I've had some outstanding refurbs. But I also had a couple clunkers. Then again, saving $400 sure would be nice.
  24. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    I have surprised myself and decided on the 5050 definitively. Even more surprising, I've decided on the Cinema 60 rather than the Cinema 50. I looked today and the 60 dropped to $1351 from $1700. It's now $1150 less than the Cinema 50. I just cannot justify that much more money for a receiver...
  25. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    I've always been interested in separates, however, I've also been intimidated by them. I feel like I'd be building my own car, you know? Also, I'm not sure I'll need that kind of power. As for my speakers, I have B+Ws (including 2 center channels, which is really awesome). My sub is a Polk...
  26. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Thanks again for your response. Very helpful. Right now I'm actually leaning toward the 5050. As you noted, it will absolutely blow the BenQ out of the water. Also, with how limited our viewing is, We'll have under 5000 hours of usage in 5 years, so I'm guessing I won't even need to replace the...
  27. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    I will be upgrading from a BenQ 1080p projector. I can't remember the model offhand. I'm at work right now. But I think I bought it 2 years ago for like $800-$900 or so. It's been great. But it isn't 4K and the blacks are obviously not fantastic. I suspect the 5050 will blow us away in...
  28. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I'm having such a hard time with this decision. My wife laughs about it because I don't even think twice if she asks for something, a new couch that we don't really need and is more about aesthetics, for example. Or something that she wants - a kiln for her...
  29. JasonRoer

    Epson introduces its most advanced Laser Projector to Date: Epson Pro Cinema 4K PRO-UHD LS12000

    Good afternoon, all. I am trying to decide between purchasing the 5050UB, the LS11000, or the LS12000. Essentially, I'm trying to determine if it makes sense to spend the extra $ for the current crop of laser projectors. I can pick up the 5050UB for $2400 vs the $4000 and $5000 respectively for...
  30. JasonRoer

    *** 3rd Annual HTF Noirvember Movie Challenge***

    I know this isn't the proper area for this question, however, since it seems you are all such home theater fans, I want to ask about a projector/receiver. I'm upgrading my equipment next month. I am waffling between the Epson LS 12000 and the Epson 5050ub. Both have the ultrablack tech I love...
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