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60% of all HDTV sales according to recent data in 2013 purchase a 42" screen size and sit an Average of 9' feet away and only 0.10% even buy a 60". For most people 4K will NEVER benefit them at all, i'm just trying to spread the word so be don't shoot the messenger. This is mostly all a Hype...

Yes, I completely agree in your case I would ONLY purchase a 4K projector especially when going 120"..... Another REAL WORLD application would be for 4K Passive 3D compared with 1080p Active 3D. I'm very interested to see how well 4K will stacks up in comparison.

Interesting Articles: Why 4K TVs are stupid http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid/ Why 4K TVs are stupid (still) http://www.cnet.com/news/why-4k-tvs-are-stupid-still/

Well excuse me for coming onto the post that I started and defending the misconception of 4K as this was the original reason I wanted to talk about this topic in the first place, If you truly wanted to help the average consumer then you shouldn't purposely try to confuse them. After all of that...

Your right Facts that counter your argument don't matter. Work on your reading comprehension skills. This is a discussion about Resolution and the Human eye with 20/20 Vision and how all the HYPE about 4K is mostly just that. Since you like to use examples from a personal perspective I will...

Congratulations on having such great eye sight! As the maker of this chart clearly states, this is for 20/20 Vision because we clearly cannot go over every possible scenario their is. Strawman arguments aside, this is the Rule for the average person not the Exception. Source...

The UHD 4K Elephant in the Room. At the Average Viewing distance of 10' you would need a 77" Screen or bigger before you could see Any Improvements with a 4K UHDTV (3840 x 2160) over a 2K (1920 x 1080) set. These are the limits of the human eye with 20/20 vision. Digital Trends also...

Very interesting review article: http://www.tested.com/tech/tvs/462511-best-television-you-can-buy-today/

Here's a real world example of the Samsung F8500's Real Black Pro Filter in action, as you can see the light reflections in the room are suppressed greatly which creates a much deeper Contrast on the set even in a very Brightly Lit Room like you might see in a big box store. The other set...

Yes I know they spent hours building up the OLED's with presentations on the new technology from the Manufactures Tech Departments and were quiet embarrassed to have to admit the F8500 PLASMA had the Highest Overall Score. The F8500 would likely have scored even higher in the DAY MODE Category...

Since the Samsung F8500 had the Highest Overall Score it wasn't a tie just a marketing stunt to keep you interested in OLED tv's like the LG 55EC9300, because PLASMA tv's are on their way out thanks to the E.U Energy Standards in a large part, but Plasma still remains King of Picture Quality...

Samsung PN64F8500 Plasma Crowned King of HDTV by VE Shootout 2014...again? That's right the Samsung F8500 has now became the very first HDTV to win the infamous VE Shootout back to back. In 2013 it was the battle of the Plasma's, between the Panasonic VT & ZT series which are no longer...

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Funny thing..... The other day my nieces wanted to watch the Lego Movie that I had only purchased in 3D thru ebay. But being that the kids were all under 5 I didn't want them to ruin my 3D glasses not to mention they wouldn't fit very well. But then I remember once seeing an option on the...

Hi everyone i've been away a while since theirs been nothing new to Report but now that has all changed. A few days ago on a whim I decided to check for a Firmware Update on my F8500 and to my surprise their was a new Version (FW-1200) available for download! After downloading it I quickly...

hmm interesting so your latest is 1115 on Feb 19, 2014 in Europe? While we have 1119.1 on Feb 16, 2014 in America.

From the Samsung Review on 5-1-13 I can tell you that they were using FW.1110 which was the latest FW at the time. As of 2-16-14 were now using 1119.1 version. Some of the major bugs that have been addressed are the Brightness Pops and Floating Blacks which have now been fixed so long as you are...

True well maybe one day i'll get a professional calibrator such as yourself up to the Frozen North because we don't have any within 350 miles! So i'm stuck with Disney WOW for now, and some tips from other A/V sites.

You know i'm actually a big fan of your work over at the V.E.Shootout and in-depth research into screen resolution. Having said that with the two biggest and closest heavyweights in recent years going at it punch-by-punch I think that we should just keep the rounds as accurate as possible. And...

As i'm a current owner of an Updated Samsung F8500, I know for a fact that the "intermittent frame skipping" has been fixed because i've seen this problem before and now we know how to fix it. As you have stated you only know what's going on with a specific model tv when you have it for a review...

The reason for me stating that they "Stacked the Deck" with the ZT is that they were making comparisons to an older review of an F8500. The problem being that they were comparing a new fully calibrated ZT with updated fixes via Firmware against a first generation F8500's that hadn't had really...

Yes they stacked the deck of a Freshly Calibrated ZT versus the old Calibration of a F8500 http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/zt-201403233655.htm The Last – And Best – Panasonic Plasma We’ll Ever Review By Vincent Teoh 23 March 2014, 2:00 pm GMT After all that has been said about the ZT &...

Well the moderators delete anytime Trolls make such comments so they are deleted already you would have to be reading the conversation the day of to catch it. This one guy who will remain nameless kept arguing with me about the ZT60 & F8500 regarding Light Output and I tried explaining to him...

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Ya I use to post over there but got tired of all the Trolls, I have the same Username as over there and Icon so you can read everything that i've posted on the F8500 Forums. But i'm done with them so I made an account over here. Hoping to breathe new life into these Forums when I can.

Some people say that 1080 is old news and on the way out and that 4K is just around the Corner: Well the Exact same things were said over 5 years ago on March 10, 2009 by: http://reviews.cnet.com/720p-vs-1080p-hdtv/ "Eventually, of course, manufacturers will completely phase out 720p TVs. But...

Wow is this Forum dead now since the Panasonics are no longer being sold? Great TV's my father owns the ZT60 & I the F8500. Both have their pluses and minuses. But now that the Samsung F8500 has been announce to be carried into production thru 2014 their is certain to be even more owners now...