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  1. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    Of course when "Hello Dolly" went into general release back around 1971 the standard 35mm prints of "Hello Dolly" had a "mono optical track" with an academy curve. That said, WHY IN THE WORLD would ANY theatre chain run "Hello Dolly" today (even if it was available), MONO? Especially since...
  2. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    That's the problem, the color is gone. While realize how expensive it is to make a 70mm print today, with the situation with Eastman Kodak, I was wondering how much longer the film stock will be available. The original 35mm prints of ATWI80D were dye prints. About 1968 UA re-released ATWI80D...
  3. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I don't "think" that there are ANY "original prints" that could be usable today. Since there was never (at least to my knowledge, but you never can tell what was done in other countries) 70mm dye prints of any films here in the U.S., any Eastman prints that might still exist would be red. If...
  4. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    If you've never seen it before and the print is good, AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS is terrific in 70mm. Unfortunately, ALL the great 70mm Roadshow houses here in New York City have been demolished (with the exception of the Ziegfeld, which didn't open until 1969 and is just a four wall box and...
  5. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I think you're referring to the UA Syosset Theatre. I was aware, sadly, that the Syosset was closed. The Syosset was used as a 3 projector Cinerama theatre and then converted to UP70 for the Roadshow of Mad World. The UA D150 theatre was down the road and closer to the parkway. However, in...
  6. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I take it that the Seattle UA-150 theatre is CLOSED. Some day, when ALL the theatres are finally gone (including today's ugly four wall boxes), they will finally understand what they have missed. Although I have now been able to purchase a Blu-ray of nearly every picture I ever wanted, when...
  7. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I don't know who bought it, since eBay doesn't let you see the info that they used to let you see. I only recall it went for what I thought was a "cheap" amount. However, about the same time, when Regal pulled out their film projectors, dozens of like new Schneider lenses (the expensive short...
  8. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    It hasn't been a "particularly good neighborhood" for a long time now. You can't really see the rooftop parking in the picture, but it was a great feature when the theatre was new. After UA gave up the theatre, because of the large Indian population in Lefrak City, an independent that ran a...
  9. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    Yes, that's the theatre. It was installed by Joe Kelly (the "Kel" in Kelmar), who was one of the BEST! Unfortunately, he passed away in 2009. :mellow: While the theatre is gone, the building, including its rooftop parking remains.
  10. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    If as you claim, UA Pictures had a different policy relating to print availability for Cinemascope films, it would make sense. Since it was the Society of Independent Motion Picture Producers, a group led by Mary Pickford (of United Artists Pictures fame), Samuel Goldwyn, Walter Wanger, and...
  11. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    Doug, I don't know what post you are referring to and I too don't want to get in too deep either. Below is part of my response to Will Krupp, which I believe is post #404 and it's pretty clear I'm referring to the "UA Lefrak D-150 Theatre". When I answered you, I didn't realize that you were...
  12. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    First, I made no reference to "United Artists Pictures", my reference was to a United Artists Theatre (which was the former Skouras theatre chain), so I'm not sure why you mention UA pictures? What WAS UA Pictures first scope picture to be offered OPTICAL ONLY? You're referring to a much later...
  13. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I see you like the 2.20:1 AR, which is a 70mm Super Panavision 70 aspect ratio. That happens to be my favorite aspect ratio for 35mm scope films also. When you crop a 35mm film to get a 2.20:1 aspect ratio, you're not really losing anything of importance. They've been doing stuff like that...
  14. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    You're right, my error. The original scope prints of Oklahoma (magnetic only) were 2.55:1. I was thinking of the last time I saw a print of Oklahoma. It was run as an special showing, with the regular evening show, to demonstrate the "D-150 All Purpose Masking System" for the opening of the...
  15. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    The Robe was filmed twice....just in case Cinemascope didn't work as expected or there weren't enough theatres converted. Conversion was a BIG DEAL at the time. The original Cinemascope prints only had magnetic tracks, NO OPTICAL. So if you wanted to run a Cinemascope picture, you had to...
  16. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    Mr. Jingles said, "I am guessing it's a broader widescreen version...." Actually, the scope version of "Oklahoma" is 2.35:1 and the Todd/AO version is 2.20:1, so the scope version would actually appear wider than the Todd/AO version. The main difference with OKLAHOMA in Todd/AO, when compared...
  17. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I was going to decorate the walls going into my HT, but killed that idea because I was afraid it would cause MASSIVE reflections. :) Oh well, I guess it's back to my wife DOING HER THING....good luck to her. :(
  18. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    Is the spot you describe the ONLY dark place? If there are a number of bad places, I would appreciate it if you could send me the time marks,, so I can compare those places with the film, to see if they made it the same....or worse. I have every version of the R&H single and box sets that have...
  19. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    While you "might" be right when referring to a big screen "TV", it certainly doesn't apply to a properly setup "video projector" on a screen with the proper gain.. The people on this forum are a TOUGH group when it comes to picture quality. In many cases, people are looking for BETTER PQ or...
  20. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    After endless reading of this thread and ALL the "problems" people "believe" they have, I can't help thinking what some people would be saying if they REALLY HAD A PROBLEM. Besides running Carousel numerous times over the years and the complaint of a "blue tint" is consistent with a REAL PROBLEM.
  21. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I did an entire review of the sound on this Blu-ray of "OKLAHOMA" For some strange reason, it only saved about a third of the total review. I SHOULD HAVE made a backup BEFORE I posted it, but did not. I'm just too weak to do it over, so I'm just deleting it. The BOTTOM LINE is that there is...
  22. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    Thanks for that. Although I haven't tested "Oklahoma" on my Pioneer Elite receiver in my basement theatre (only tested in my old Pioneer upstairs in my living room), I haven't updated the Elite firmware in well over 18 months (at least). I use 5.1 down there because I just never got around to...
  23. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I can make mine AS BIG AS I NEED TO, however, that won't answer the question of whether THIS DISC has a problem....or not. As I read through all these new posts that go back and forth, it reminds me of the scene in Carousel when Gordon MacRae is watching Shirley Jones (Julie) Barbara Ruick...
  24. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    While everything you're saying should be done, the problem (if one exists) could be solved by simply LOOKING AT WHAT THEY ALREADY HAVE IN STORAGE. The scene that should reflect that it's "dusk" could have been determined by looking at a copy of the Cinemascope IB Technicolor print. In...
  25. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    You're 100% correct. If becomes even MORE ANNOYING when it was correct on earlier DVD versions. It makes you think they just throw a coin in the air and depending on whether it's heads or tails determines how their decisions are made. I GUESS THERE IS NO QUALITY CONTROL ANYMORE. YOU WOULD...
  26. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    I have also run "Oklahoma" in many different incarnations over the years, from 35mm Academy Optical, 35mm 4-track mag. and 70mm 6 track mag (I've never seen or run a 70mm Dolby version that's MISSING the "left center" and "right center" channels and replaced with "bass enhancement"). However...
  27. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    That would help to confirm RAH's theory of the problem. If enough people answer, maybe we can pin it down before using ANY test instruments. We need at least what digital you're using - Dolby or DTS Master, 5.1, 7.1 or hybrid, Amplifier Power and anything else you feel is relevant. Thanks!
  28. Techman707

    A Few Words About A few words about...™ Oklahoma! -- in Blu-ray

    That's a pretty good guess and while it might not account for the lower audio level, it certainly could be the answer for any distorted dialogue. Since there appears to be two groups, one saying it's good and the other disagreeing, at the very least it would be helpful if they could tell us...
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