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2,580 pounds for the entire system.

The VMPS are nice. They are similar to the old Infinity IRS Betas in sound. I have a couple pairs of the Betas and they are in your friend's price range. They are certainly big and play flat to 15Hz. They would require bi-amping, though. You can pick them up on the used market off of audiogon or...

If you want shaking bass when you have a concrete slab, then you will need either a tactile transducer like the Buttkickers or the Clark Synthesis. An Odyssee would be really good, but it is probably out of the budget. It has the most shake by far of anything if you turn it up all the way.

The best 2 channel system I heard was Genesis 1.1 driven by Spectral amps and a spectral pre-pro. It inspired me enough to buy the Infnity IRS V. The best home theater system I have heard is mine - Infinity IRS series speakers on every channel. No sub, but an Odyssee motion simulator makes it...

Because I bought sixteen 250GB drives and they shorted me on all my drives. I will hold my breath while waiting for them. Blue is really my color. ;)

Actually, I think this is so that you can finally run the Terminator 2 WM9 HDTV clip without any stuttering. Or is could be so that you could encode a file like that in less than a week.

I wrote the above post before seeing yours, Patrick. I will drop the conversation. But I will expect another 274.7GB from Western Digital some time in the future. Maybe they will include it with my rebate check. ;)

You are just like the hard drive suppliers: deliberately choosing the incorrect definition for the context of the word. The only thing that is really sick is that while they have incentive to do it - to make a buck, you are doing it just to be argumentative. When definition #1 fits exactly...

Well RobertR, what do you have to say about the definition of a GB? Or are you just going to ignore that?

RobertR: The prevailing view is 2^30 bytes. The first definition of a GB in the dictionary is 2^30 bytes. This is not about trying to get the law to agree with me. This is about an industry that has chosen to break with the standards of naming in the computer industry specifically for the...

But there was no such disclaimer on the computers sold by Dell, Compaq and others. Hence the lawsuit. RobertR, you are missing the point. I will make it simple: It is not illegal for me to say to my wife "Hand me a kleenex" when I really just want a tissue. It is illegal for Puffs to...

The common useage for one KB was 1024 bytes. One MB was 1024 KB and one GB was 1024 MB. The hard drive manufacturers started advertising using decimal notation. The first day they did that, it was wrong. RobertR, if you don't care about this, then don't care. I do care, however. It is...

Or people probably think a gigabyte = 1 billion bytes because that is what the Hard Drive makers have been claiming. I do not see anywhere else in a computer that claims a gigabyte is anything other than 2^30.

I looked it up on dictionary.com: 1. A unit of computer memory or data storage capacity equal to 1,024 megabytes (2^30 bytes). 2. One billion bytes. When referring to computer data storage, it is 2^30 bytes. I already made mention to the fact that telecom has been using decimal...

RobertR, this is not about me being unhappy about how drive manufacturers measure things. It is about them changing the measuring convention for the explicit purpose of putting a bigger number on the box. Yes, a lawyer will take a cut of the settlement. Does that make their job any less...

Agreed. They wouldn't need the footnote at all if they had been using base 2, though. Notice that they don't need a footnote for RAM to say that 256MB, where a MB = 2^20. People who don't know the difference between base 10 and base 2 are frequently in the group that don't get too involved in...

The lawyers are likely taking this case Pro Bono, as most class action suits are. I didn't find out about this until the ball was in motion, but I have always been against the hard drive manufacturers' deceptive capacity claims. I have felt that it isn't accurate and while they try to hide...

Neal, the hamaburger must be cooked, as the drive must be formatted. That is not the point. The point is that before the hard drive is formatted, it is not 20GB, it is 18.6. After formatting, it may only be 18.4, but before formatting, it is 18.6, not 20. If McDonalds was putting only 3/16 of...

John, I am not naive, but the cost of this suit is zero if they would just agree to sell the hard drives by the number of computer GB's they are instead of a marketing GB. They are choosing to fight this, so it is their choice to pay the costs of the legal battle. As for the above example on...

This is not about the use inside my OS. It isn't about using "what is sold" but that they are selling something using deceptive advertising be defining a GB as one billion bytes instead of a GB as what all computer operating systems define it as - 2^30 bytes. I understand the XP overhead of a...

To you, it sounds like a stupid suit, but if this bled over to other industries, you would possibly not feel the same. Suppose you bought a pound of hamburger, but found that you only got 373 grams instead of 454 grams because they decided to sell it by troy weight? Would this not be...

[oops, I didn't check the date on this thread when I replied and didn't realize it was so old. I was doing a search on Terabyte and it came up.] It is amazing how people are not seeing this case clearly and those who do cannot defend it properly without ridiculous arguments like "I will...

I don't think I will ever run into anybody calling my system obsolete, either - even though the speakers are now 25 years old. I suppose if others here have "fridge" speakers then I suppose I have smokestacks or something. Even the ideal set-up will have some compromises in it. You cannot...

Some people, like myself, use full range speakers on all channels and do not use a subwoofer at all. I tried to put in a subwoofer just to see and it downgraded my bass quite substantially even when I kept all the speakers set to full. I have had sat/sub combos in the distant past and have...

The best I have heard for stereo are the Genesis 1.1 I heard once when I wanted to audition IRS V but couldn't find a pair near me. I would have bought the Genesis if I had the cash. The best I have heard for home theater was Infinity IRS V mains, dual IRS Betas for surrounds and an IRS Gamma...

Rather than look at what something cost back then vs. what a comparable speaker costs today. Look at your budget and figure what you would spend on speakers. If for that price, you can surpass your old infinity speakers, then upgrade, unless you can improve your system more by spending that...

Well, the party last weekend went VERY well and the Phase Technology Teatro series were very impressive for their price point. We used a 6.5 for the center, 7.5 for the mains and two pairs of Teatro surrounds in a 7 channel set-up.

I just installed a sub, but I keep all the speakers set at large. When I set the speakers to small, it was a HUGE hit to my bass. Unfortunately, it seems as though it is very hard to get both the mains and the sub to hit with a lot of bass.