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Ok, I misunderstood your fist post about the blocks. Your saying build the cabinet to make a Q=.5 then add blocks to raise the Q if I want too. I thought you were saying i could lower the Q with blocks similar to how the fill works. Thats why I asked for some more info cause i didnt think it...

Thanks a ton guys, I guess I'll go with the Shiva. Like Peter said with it being paired up with maggies I'm not going to push either one to its limit so in terms of volume its not going to matter. I'll be able to get the cleanest sound out of the Shiva since i can go with the smaller box...

Jack, thanks for the link. I love the finish on that sub!!! Well, here is the latest....after getting home from work and breaking out the tape measure I'm afraid 24x24x25 is going to be too big. It didnt seem that big in my head but when I measured it out it seems to big, I dont think it will...

Whops, no your right, I'm not doing the .577 it was too big, its 24x24x31 + 4"feet so its too tall. The next size is the .707 which is 21x21x21 + 4"feet which is just right for a endtable. What i plan on doing if you guys think its ok (which Jack I think you said it would be fine), is to blen...

HaHa, yea Jack thats what I was thinking when I typed my last post....sure is alot of posts and discussion for me to end up with a Tempest in a Q .5 enclosure using the amp Adire suggested. Oh well, it wasnt all for nothing. I learned A TON!!!!! If I would have just called Adire and ordered...

Just call Visa, and tell them to send you your own....that will take care of all your problems....well except one.... what to tell you wife when the bill arrives I say cut the hole!!! STEPHEN

AndersP - The back of the speaker has regualar speaker wire and interconnect type connections. It also has a on/off/auto switch and an adjustment knob. The only thing about the adjustment know is now that i think about it I dont think it changes the crossover point but rather the volume. I...

If I were to pull the driver out of the box would the be anything on the back of the driver like some kind of specs or something that might give me a clue or starting point??? Thanks,

AndersP - Yea my speakers that I might be using for parts had a 15" sub with the Carver amp and also a crossover with a knob for adjustment. It also had all the necessary inputs. I figured I could take all that out and mount it on the new sub. The filtering points and all that I have no idea...

Are there any other good drivers like the Shiva/Tempest that are designed for the diy guys in mind??? I might try mine out in the cabinet and if it doesnt sound good swap it for the Tempest. I figured since mine is currently in a very small box and is boomy it might open up and sound better...

Yea, after reading all this info on how the box and driver interact to create the sound I was kinda thinking about building a box for the 15" tempest but try using my 15" speakers that I already have laying around to see how they sound. They are currently mounted in a enclosure that is sealed...

Jack, thanks for the info!!! One the last paragraph of that link he says stuffing becomes less effective the larger the box size. He also said to stuff boxes under 3 cubic feet, mine is going to be around 5 cubic feet so would stuffing be pointless??? Also he talked about the larger the box...

So if you fill it the Q gets lower??? From looking at cabinet designs the Q gets lower as the volume gets bigger so why would fill make the Q lower???? It would be taking away the volume???? Wait, is "Qtc" the same as "Q"?????? If this is the case I guess I could use the .707 cabinet and...

Well, the only prob with that is the cabinet with a Q of .577 is also 24x24 wide and deep so you really couldnt add there either. What about this.... There is the design that Q=.577 and it is 24x24x31 + 4" feet that make it 35" tall. Then there is the next on with a Q=.707 and it is...

ok guys, I've been doing a little research and talking with Dan at Adire and he sent me some cabinet designes for the Shiva and Tempest. there is one cabinet for each that could easily be turned into a endtable. The Shiva has a cabinet design with a Q of .6 that is the right size for a...

Brian, thanks for the link!!!! That sub is AWSOME!!! I wonder how it sounds, good I'm sure!!! Let me ask you guys this.... I've been advised by a few people that an enclosed sub thats about 3 cubic feet would be a pretty decent mate for maggies. What if I were to make a endtable similar to...

Well, I got in touch with Dan at Adire Audio and asked him if they would be releasing any type of dipole kit for the DPL12's. Here is what he told me...... ****START OF EMAIL**** Stephen, Thanks for the e-mail! We're probably not going to come out with a dipole system design for the...

The only prob I see with the dipole above it making it look like it could be a endtable. The side is 19x13 (its listed on his site). The 13 is the height. That would be very short for a endtable unless it could be put on stands or something. Maybe just a good tight sealed enclosure would be...

WOW, Jack I knew that dipole subs werent much on spl but I didnt realize it was a 4 to 1 difference!!!! Thats alot of difference. Thanks for the info!!!! STEPHEN

Kerry, does the $400 Rava really sound as good as the REL subs??? THANKS GUYS!!!!

What about a set of Magnepan MMG's. They are $550 shiped and you get 60 days to try them out. If you dont like them just send them back. This way you get to audition them in your own home with your equipment not the stores equipment. If you want natural life like sound that sounds like the...

Ok, I sent Adire a email asking if they would be coming out with any type of dipole sub kit for those DPL12's and also asking for any suggestions to go with Maggies. You guys keep it up, this is great info. I'm reading all your links and trying to take in as much as possible!!!! So far the...

OK I think you guys are going to realize pretty quick that I'm not a engineer and dont pretent to be haha. I am good a building and designing things but I dont have a fit understanding of acustics and how to build a dipole sub. I guess where I'm going with this is that I'll probably need it...

Hey guys, I'm pretty new here as you can tell. I've been on a few other home audio forums and just found this one. I must say this seems like a very in depth forum and I'm loving this very active diy section!!!! Here is the deal. I have multiple hobbies and not enough money to go around...

What you mean you dont want everyone on the forum to know how much your house cost??? haha j/k Guys, I am very envious of your diy speakers. I guess I need to invest in some equipment to build my own sub. I once saw a sub that looked like a endtable and the top was stained into a checker...

Hmm, well I've got a set of Maggies and would never go back to boxes. I've listened to some boxes here lately that were around $5K and while they sounded ok they still had a boxed traped sound to them that I've grown to not like. I like maggies cause they sound to open, clear, and truely life...

How is the svs or hsu with music? All my speakers are maggies and they seem to be kinda hard to match up with a sub. I was going to get a rel but can bring myself to spend the money right now. I mostly listed to music, I'd say its prob 85% music (jazz) and 15% movies I like very clean...