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  1. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    So please tell how all these things happen miraculously in 50 hours and then COMPLETELY STABILIZE for even the 20 years Bryston gives a guarantee. V-E-L-L-L-Y V-E-L-L-L-Y interesting physics!!!!!!!
  2. Bill Turetsky

    Apex universal, etc.?

    True enough - but MANY 'major' brands are also OEM'd out of these very same Chinese factories. Anyhow - has anyone heard anything about Apex' 'universal' player?
  3. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    PLEASE!! There are two different things getting mixed here A. Performance of a unit when just turned on and cold - and performance and measurements after reaching stable internal and ambient temps. B. Performance after being used for 50-100 hours being different before this period and...
  4. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    I think it is important to note it is one situation for an electronic device having different characteristics after being on (and heated, etc.) for 30 mins or an hour as opposed to just being turned on. That is VERY possible and almost a sure bet. The differences will be even measurable until a...
  5. Bill Turetsky

    DVD-Audio SACD Question

    JK raises a VERY important issue - DVDV players are basically SUPPOSED to 'play' DVDA but they do not play it in the DVDA format - only in DD or DTS. (Of course DVDV players can only play so-called DVDA disks if the DVDA disk has an alternative format such as DD or DTS on it - not all disks do)...
  6. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    LB: Could you be more specific about what companies are suggesting what? I am aware of correspondence with some of them - and when 'confronted' with the type of questions I have raised above - they kind of 'smile' and 'admit' their own burn-in is for the infant mortality issue - but at the...
  7. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    JB: For the sake of this discussion, could you please go thru the scenario (from the angle of the amp designer) as to how a quality amp is put onto the market in such a 'partially-ready' state that it needs further 'processing' (burn-in) by the user? a. how do they know how much to use it...
  8. Bill Turetsky

    Apex universal, etc.?

    Has anyone followed what has happened to the Apex 77xx? The 7701 was - from everything I've seen on the web - a total fiasco. Supposedly there was to be a 7702 (7703 in Europe?) but everything seems to be quiet on this front. As for the rest of the Apex collection it is hard not to find...
  9. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    Let's put it this way. I dare anyone to find a statement from a repuatble amp manufacturer saying they deliver a product which needs X hours of playing before it is up to specs. I dare anyone finding an amp company that says they don't know how to quantifiably measure their equipment so...
  10. Bill Turetsky

    New Sherbourn Pre/Pro

    The green button is just fine - very ergomonic as says 'where to start the fun' - and the fun continues with the 'fun' logo.
  11. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    The Coriolus effect is devastating on liquid capacitors! :D
  12. Bill Turetsky

    Electronics Gurus...answer me this? Breaking in Amps?

    I believe there is a rather clear way to look at this 'burn-in' question: Please take the perspective of the amplifier designer. I have never heard of any designer worth their salt who would use components that they didn't know EXACTLY what properties they have and WILL have. They also know...
  13. Bill Turetsky

    Is Outlaw More Efficient than the Big Vendors?

    I would like to remove any implications that B&M dealers and floor people are DELIBERATELY hood-winking anyone. It is really more a question of fairly low salaries (though 'commissions' can get significant if used) and thus associated limited knowledge, corporate policies of 'chains' and...
  14. Bill Turetsky

    Is Outlaw More Efficient than the Big Vendors?

    The question about 'costs' is certainly relevant. But what may not immediately come to mind is that the Outlaw 'direct' form of marketing allows for an entirrely different kind of freedom and creativity in product design than the 'dealer' model. This 'independence' is even more pertinent in...
  15. Bill Turetsky

    ***Official Outlaw 950 Thread ***

    OK Bob - maybe we can stop for an ice cream before we get to the amusement park - it won't be long now. And stop teasing your sister - or we won't stop ANYWHERES! ;) You certainly describe the crux. No one in any way has attempted any evil doings. The damn problem is a giant moving target -...
  16. Bill Turetsky

    ***Official Outlaw 950 Thread ***

    Yeah,Will, but you and many hundreds are in the same boat. You KNOW that your comments are not going to move anything forward - even a microsecond - why not just let these people do their work and have them feel we're with them? I'm pretty sure your dad was going to get to the amusement park...
  17. Bill Turetsky

    Say, what would the perfect (most expensive)1980's HT be?

    What scares me in the subject heading is the equation of quality with price. Supposedly, competition 'filters' should make that a truism but unfortunately there is too much crap out there where the high price tag is put on as part of the cynical marketing process. And, of course, we also...
  18. Bill Turetsky

    ***Official Outlaw 950 Thread ***

    I don't have any doubts regarding the final point spread!
  19. Bill Turetsky

    ***Official Outlaw 950 Thread ***

    Will: I'm wondering a bit about why you are STILL making comments re the 950's delay? We sure know that these people are working full-out to get it shipped. We have read their VERY forthcoming newsletters - quite unprecedented in the industry in their candidness. We also know that these...
  20. Bill Turetsky

    How many think we'll have our 950's by MLKjr Holiday !!

    Actually it HAD been scheduled for 14th February but some format problems were noted - and it's being delayed till the beta testers report in. Something about crooked arrows.
  21. Bill Turetsky

    My dream reciever: a next generation Outlaw 1050

    What? - no popcorn machine included? Yeah - GIANT KILLER - it would probably kill Outlaw at the same time :frowning: Or they'd be thrown in jail having been caught stealing the components to manufacture it :b
  22. Bill Turetsky

    Acoustic Research/Perfect Vision

    The latest Perfect Vision has gone TOTAL BANANAS about the AR HC6 HT package. Has anyone listened to them? I had watched AR disappear via Jensen, etc. over the years and really wonder if it was 'revivable.' How one can get GREAT sound in 5 speakers and a sub for $700 is really beyond me. A...
  23. Bill Turetsky

    Outlaw 770 or the Rotel RMB 1095 amplifier?

    "How do you give impressions on an amp that isn't even out yet? Just curious..." ++ Outlaw has a FINE track record with the 1050 and the 750 - can't believe they'd drop the ball!
  24. Bill Turetsky

    Outlaw model 1050, really as good as they say?

    The Outlaw is BETTER than what is writeen about it. It sounds great with music material - and that means it ALSO sounds great with sound tracks. Too often, one gets 'fooled' by the bouncing around of bullets, etc. and is distracted for listening for REAL sound reproduction as to regards...
  25. Bill Turetsky

    What I Love Most About the Malata N996

    Well all of us can't afford having 2 units - so if the DVD player is supposed to do CD - then it SHOULD!!!
  26. Bill Turetsky

    It is now Thanksgiving - where is the Outlaw 950???

    I still trust the Outlaw will be WELL worth any wait!!
  27. Bill Turetsky

    Any info on the Apex 7701 universal DVD player yet?

    It's going to be pretty hard to BELIEVE the 7701 First of all I doubt if Sony is going to let them use the SACD and if Apex does try to do SACD without it, they're going to get their pants sued off if they get too close And it will be one year before Apex gets the bugs out anyhow of anything...
  28. Bill Turetsky

    seeking info re: region coding from Japan members

    Remember, too, that region 2 also covers Europe - just to show the arbitrariness of the DVD Forum to control markets.
  29. Bill Turetsky

    What I Love Most About the Malata N996

    Have you tried the Malata for CD's? Many CD's do not start playing until after a second or two. Or maybe yours has been upgraded. Do you happen to know where upgrades are otherwise available?
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